The Most asked Question - Why?
The Most asked Question - Why?
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samuk

Original Poster:

169 posts

235 months

Thursday 10th May 2007
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Do TVR's spend more time off the road (usually on the back of the RAC Track) then on the road?

I am thinking of selling my M5, as i soooo loooooooooooove the Tuscan...but this thought scares the living daylights out of me...

Yes all cars break down, and neeed money spending on it..Example, my M5 has cost me near little over £2K this year which included a new Cluth, tyres and other servicing bits.. but why is the reliability of a TVR such a BIG topic..and its asked on Every Forum...

If i were to ask all TVR owners here to post up some of the major issues they have had in there ownership - i am looking for either Cerbera or Tuscan in particular...

Thanks for any advise...

Sam

midas dude

213 posts

239 months

Thursday 10th May 2007
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They are both high performance cars,and with that can come big bills.(as can Ferrari,Porsche etc)
Do your homework through these pages for annual running costs,most owners agree on an approx figure of £3k.
Im sure if you get an opportunity to be taken for a ride in one,you will be astounded by the acceleration,noise and responsivness of these beasts.
Good luck in your quest,AL

Big Al.

69,333 posts

282 months

Thursday 10th May 2007
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samuk said:
If i were to ask all TVR owners here to post up some of the major issues they have had in there ownership - i am looking for either Cerbera or Tuscan in particular...


They already have .....

For Tuscans look over in the Speed Six forum.
and the Cerbi forum for Cerbs. :}

stillgrinning

1,091 posts

259 months

Thursday 10th May 2007
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I have had my Tuscan for nearly 3 years, done about 20k miles and apart from running out of petrol one day and the day that I left my lights on and run the battery flat (neither, under any circumstance, can be laid at the door of the Tuscan, rather the knob that did it !) I have never had so much as a cough from the greatest engine and suspension set-up I have ever driven. (and you can get a set of golf clubs and a motorised trolly in the boot !)

Do it ! (but put at least a grand a year aside for servicing and tyres etc.) and experience the real ride of your life bow

Tuscanx1 jnr

39 posts

229 months

Friday 11th May 2007
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samuk said:

.. but why is the reliability of a TVR such a BIG topic..


Because bad news always travels faster than good news....although not much travels faster than a Tuscan!!

yzf1070

814 posts

255 months

Friday 11th May 2007
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Tuscanx1 jnr said:
samuk said:

.. but why is the reliability of a TVR such a BIG topic..


Because bad news always travels faster than good news....although not much travels faster than a Tuscan!!


Good response....rofl

Sam
Consider it like this, take the the horsepower your M5 has, drop it in a body a 1/4 of the weight less, puts you in a driving position closer to the road, accelerates like a mid sized motorcycle and steers like a go cart. Point it, squirt it, brake it, steer it, point it again, squirt it some more and you forget all about the running costs.... believe me there's few who have invested as much as I have in a Tuscan and its so worth it.... But sure I still have a tin box for every other day driving, but by christ do I find it dull looking at the expanse of plastic and knobs in the tin box.... get my meaning, nope? test drive a TIV and you will...

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ntel

5,051 posts

264 months

Friday 11th May 2007
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samuk said:

Do TVR's spend more time off the road (usually on the back of the RAC Truck) than on the road?

Sam


They don't. I have my Tuscan 2 from new and in 18 months and 18,000 miles the only problem I have had is a snapped throttle cable. RAC fixed it by the side of the road.

G20RG B

2,748 posts

255 months

Friday 11th May 2007
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I only had my Tuscan for 20 months,and covered about 8K miles in it. I only ever experienced a flat battery which required replacing but a part from that no issues with it what so ever. I was gutted when I had to sell it but I'll definatley get another one once I get some points of my licence (11)...

whitey

2,508 posts

308 months

Friday 11th May 2007
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7 years old next month. 2 x AA flatbed trips.

First for clutch slave seals in 2002. (noticed it leaking at my house, could have driven it to dealers)

Second time for dropped engine shim after factory engine rebuild in 2006.

Almost acceptable

Hughesie II

12,740 posts

306 months

Friday 11th May 2007
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whitey said:
7 years old next month. 2 x AA flatbed trips.

First for clutch slave seals in 2002. (noticed it leaking at my house, could have driven it to dealers)

Second time for dropped engine shim after factory engine rebuild in 2006.

Almost acceptable


Blimey, still alive then

PascalBuyens

2,868 posts

306 months

Friday 11th May 2007
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Had it since September...

5k miles, but in total over 45k on the counter.

In the past few months this is what happened:

-bought it, felt "slow" for over 300bhp coming from a 225bhp Elise.
Valve clearances, cam timing redone. Problems solved.

-oil & speed sensor replaced, plus some minor niggles sorted.

-Easter Monday: blown main bearing on the first conrod, engine now needs a complete rebuild, as well as new cats (bit burnt now...)

But still, every time I got in it, it put such a HUGE grin on my face, I still find it acceptable to deal with the issues.

leerdam23

606 posts

285 months

Friday 11th May 2007
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New Tuscan 2 Convertable. Lost count of the number of times went back to the dealer on a flat bed... ECU at least twice, Gearbox, Alternator x 3, but all fixed under guarantee. Only thing since then is a radiator... Been in the wars a bit but still would not swap it because the grin factor is soooo big. 8000 miles.

But make sure you get a diesel run around for when it does let you down, because it will eventually, and get AA recovery and a decent 3rd party warrenty.

Oh and depreciation will be a thing of the past!!

the pits

4,290 posts

264 months

Friday 11th May 2007
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There's quite a culture shock coming from an M5 but given most M5 owners wouldn't even consider a Tuscan, there's hope for you yet. The tuscan or TVRs for that matter aren't for everyone. German cars (even M5's) are appliances. They are mostly reliable and they do a job very well. Fast german cars are fast appliances. Most people want no more than that, which is why they sell so well.

But most people aren't real car enthusiasts. If you want an adrenaline soaked break from the dreary, numb world of modern cars you've come to the right place. No one ever felt drowsy at the wheel of a tuscan. You'll be concentrating on and feeling every rev, bump and twist in the road. You will feel alive and if you take liberties, scared too. A tuscan is more like an overpowered Caterham 7 with a gorgeous body than it is an M5. You don't feel speed (or anything much) in an M5. You do in a tuscan. But it's also a thing of beauty. I don't imagine anyone ever bought one who didn't fall for it's looks. It's a sculpture that you happen to be able to drive. You'll take endless photos of it and you'll always look back as you walk away from it. Butterflies will stir in your stomach every time you open the garage door. It's that sort of car. And those that love them, like me wouldn't swap one for any ferrari or porsche (really!).

But all that character and excitement for such little money does come at a price. You should expect to have moments of frustration. Some things won't always work all the time. If you're lucky they will be minor niggles and you'll be having too much fun to care or even notice. If you're not lucky it might need major engine work. The usual advice is to budget the cost of a rebuild (£4-6k) on older cars (esp pre 2004). But frankly since the company went to the wall the prices on used cars must have dropped by more than that. Moreover it would seem that the engine rebuilders have really upped their game these days and dramatically improved the spec and reliability compared to early factory cars. If you really want something more bullet proof buy and older, cheaper tuscan and take it straight to one of the many brilliant specialists for a rebuild rather than waiting for it to go pop.

Either way, let us know what you decide. Have you driven one yet?

andyoleary

1,713 posts

237 months

Friday 11th May 2007
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clap top post!

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kippax

2,792 posts

273 months

Friday 11th May 2007
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I had an M3 prior to my first TVR (A Chimaera) & now I have the Tuscan & it really is an amazing car to own. You can listen to all the horror stories about rebuilds & think twice or you can go for it safe in the knowledge that you are owning a true supercar at a fraction of the cost of going slower in a ferrari (although i'd love a 360 spider so i'm not ferrari bashing)
My car has now covered 23k miles from new (2002)& in the 2 1/2 years that I have owned it other than standard servicing once a year (less than £500 at Torque RVT) the only thing I have spent on it is carbon Cans & a decat which is a must (even if flames & bangs from exhaust scares some)Despite horror stories the car has never had a rebuild & touch wood is running as well as ever. Just rememer to always warm the engine over 50deg (oil temp) before going over 3k revs & all is good.

H

UpTheIron

4,058 posts

292 months

Saturday 12th May 2007
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PascalBuyens said:
But still, every time I got in it, it put such a HUGE grin on my face, I still find it acceptable to deal with the issues.
Sums it up so well.

I don't get the chance to drive my Tuscan so much at the moment, but took it out today.

Started on the first turn of the key, despite being left for around three weeks. Handled the weekend town centre traffic and our shopping...and then: open roads

Yes, you have to buy into TVR ownership, warts and all. I wouldn't have it any other way.

What other car (at this price) can still have such a sense of occasion, and still be capable of surprising you after 3 years of ownership?

sidewayz

2,681 posts

265 months

Saturday 12th May 2007
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the pits said:
summed it all up


Just have a test drive...you will either fall in love or shit yourself.This will help your descision process no end.



Edited by sidewayz on Saturday 12th May 23:26

R TOY

1,747 posts

252 months

Sunday 13th May 2007
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My 3.6 mk1 has covered 14k. 8k with me and 6k on clock when i bought it. Its a sept 03, i have now owned for 2yrs. I checked with the dealer who sold it for any issues with the car and other then a service they hadnt seen it since . No problems then. I have had no problems in 2 yrs and has only cost me 2 rear tyres and service. BUT it has started to lose coolant and i suspect the head gasket, so my wallet is probably about to take a beating. Just aslong as its back for LeMans That said if i now face a 1.5-2K ?? bill then still not so bad i guess.
Car is still running perfectly btw. Dave.

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

284 months

Sunday 13th May 2007
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the pits said:
There's quite a culture shock coming from an M5 but given most M5 owners wouldn't even consider a Tuscan, there's hope for you yet. The tuscan or TVRs for that matter aren't for everyone. German cars (even M5's) are appliances. They are mostly reliable and they do a job very well. Fast german cars are fast appliances. Most people want no more than that, which is why they sell so well.

But most people aren't real car enthusiasts. If you want an adrenaline soaked break from the dreary, numb world of modern cars you've come to the right place. No one ever felt drowsy at the wheel of a tuscan. You'll be concentrating on and feeling every rev, bump and twist in the road. You will feel alive and if you take liberties, scared too. A tuscan is more like an overpowered Caterham 7 with a gorgeous body than it is an M5. You don't feel speed (or anything much) in an M5. You do in a tuscan. But it's also a thing of beauty. I don't imagine anyone ever bought one who didn't fall for it's looks. It's a sculpture that you happen to be able to drive. You'll take endless photos of it and you'll always look back as you walk away from it. Butterflies will stir in your stomach every time you open the garage door. It's that sort of car. And those that love them, like me wouldn't swap one for any ferrari or porsche (really!).

But all that character and excitement for such little money does come at a price. You should expect to have moments of frustration. Some things won't always work all the time. If you're lucky they will be minor niggles and you'll be having too much fun to care or even notice. If you're not lucky it might need major engine work. The usual advice is to budget the cost of a rebuild (£4-6k) on older cars (esp pre 2004). But frankly since the company went to the wall the prices on used cars must have dropped by more than that. Moreover it would seem that the engine rebuilders have really upped their game these days and dramatically improved the spec and reliability compared to early factory cars. If you really want something more bullet proof buy and older, cheaper tuscan and take it straight to one of the many brilliant specialists for a rebuild rather than waiting for it to go pop.

Either way, let us know what you decide. Have you driven one yet?
Agreed top postthumbup

shortlad

529 posts

276 months

Sunday 13th May 2007
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sidewayz said:
the pits said:
summed it all up


you will either fall in love or shit yourself.



Edited by sidewayz on Saturday 12th May 23:26

I did both and bought 1! It may have a few niggles but I don't care... It's a great car, love it.