Difference between MK2 and MK3 ?
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I've seen these two on the classifieds.
One is claiming to be an MK3 registered in 2006, says to be one of the last.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3122322.htm
The other claiming to be an MK2 registered a year later in 2007.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3133661.htm
Did the MK3 really exist or do people overuse the term in order to get more money out of their cars ?
One is claiming to be an MK3 registered in 2006, says to be one of the last.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3122322.htm
The other claiming to be an MK2 registered a year later in 2007.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3133661.htm
Did the MK3 really exist or do people overuse the term in order to get more money out of their cars ?
Bit of a difference between last built & last registered 
The MK3 was the un-official name given to the last 2006 Targas, there is quiet a few differences/improvements over the earlier MK2 such as the dash , electrical system, suspension etc. The MK2 in your link is a 2005 model and not sold/registered until 2007 in fact it looks like the one I seen at Gatwick TVR in March 2006 and was for sale as a new car.
The MK3 was the un-official name given to the last 2006 Targas, there is quiet a few differences/improvements over the earlier MK2 such as the dash , electrical system, suspension etc. The MK2 in your link is a 2005 model and not sold/registered until 2007 in fact it looks like the one I seen at Gatwick TVR in March 2006 and was for sale as a new car.It was never given the official title of Mk3, but there were a number of differences, the most noticeable being the dash moving over to the T350/Tam/Sag dash. They had got the spec just before the factory closed and some Mk2's were completed after the factory finished or were part built and finished after.
Never seen one with those seats though.
Never seen one with those seats though.
The MK2 is very early 2005 if its a 3.6... The only other Tuscan with Sparco seats I know about is Peter Reids Vert Motor Show car '06 and I think Racing Green may have done those... You really need the Build number from the VIN to be certain when they were actually specified/manufactured.. and the body and engine will be different dates again.
I used to own one of these and was gutted when I sold it, not sure about the MKIII name but it is deffinetly one of the last ever made because its a targa roof with the latest dash. As I understand, most cars with this dash were convertible. I remember seeing a post on here a year or two ago stating how many of these were built. It was lass than 20. This particular car will only increase in value (if you keep the miles low) I'm pretty sure about that.. its a collectors car no doubt and if I had the cash it would be mine yesterday..!
Keeping the miles low on mine she has 11.5 miles so far also 2006 mk3 "S" in lovely Glow red, currently being used as a shelf coved in motorcycle parts,
Must get round to selling it soon just don't know what there worth? apparently only 26 MK 3 made and only 10 of those S spec from what i understand
Must get round to selling it soon just don't know what there worth? apparently only 26 MK 3 made and only 10 of those S spec from what i understand
Edited by froggie on Monday 22 August 22:10
I'm going to keep the miles down on my Convertible and wait for the right time to sell.
In the mean time, just driven to Germany and back and off to Spain this week starting with a slow drive through Belgium, Luxenbourg and France. (slow as in plenty of stops on the way
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There just tooooo good to leave in the garage.
In the mean time, just driven to Germany and back and off to Spain this week starting with a slow drive through Belgium, Luxenbourg and France. (slow as in plenty of stops on the way
)There just tooooo good to leave in the garage.
Froggie I see no reason why a 'Mk 3' shouldn't fetch near Sagaris money.
I sold a Sagaris to buy my Tuscan and the Mk '3' is the nearest thing TVR ever made to a convertible Sagaris, so for me more desirable.
The market wants to pay more for Sagari and we have to accept that but some tatty cars are selling for a good bit more than I'm asking for the Tuscan. A Sagaris with my car's mileage and condition, (if there was such a thing!) would be asking north of £45k, maybe more.
As for the pitiful mileage, it's just down to living abroad and having other cars to share the mileage. I simply haven't had the time to use the car as much as I'd have liked. It has been fired up as regularly as possible (the aim has been at least once a month), for short round trips, just never got to go on that big trip in it.
I was sorely tempted to take it to the Mille Miglia this year but thought the miles were better put on my Elise. It's value isn't mileage sensitive so it made more sense to put 3000 miles on that. The Elise was absolutely brilliant (apart from in Italy without aircon!) but I would have loved the Tuscan in the alps. It's electric agility (the equal of the Elise) and the noise would have been epic on the high passes.
I sold a Sagaris to buy my Tuscan and the Mk '3' is the nearest thing TVR ever made to a convertible Sagaris, so for me more desirable.
The market wants to pay more for Sagari and we have to accept that but some tatty cars are selling for a good bit more than I'm asking for the Tuscan. A Sagaris with my car's mileage and condition, (if there was such a thing!) would be asking north of £45k, maybe more.
As for the pitiful mileage, it's just down to living abroad and having other cars to share the mileage. I simply haven't had the time to use the car as much as I'd have liked. It has been fired up as regularly as possible (the aim has been at least once a month), for short round trips, just never got to go on that big trip in it.
I was sorely tempted to take it to the Mille Miglia this year but thought the miles were better put on my Elise. It's value isn't mileage sensitive so it made more sense to put 3000 miles on that. The Elise was absolutely brilliant (apart from in Italy without aircon!) but I would have loved the Tuscan in the alps. It's electric agility (the equal of the Elise) and the noise would have been epic on the high passes.
I'd like to add that I'm not hung up on the Mk '3' thing but it has become useful shorthand on here but I do believe the sum of the new parts does equal a pretty significant difference to an early Mk 2.
The work done on suspension set up in conjunction with Bilstein was fairly major. It was off the back of the Sagaris program but the Tuscan still went through it's own development process. As confirmed by a certain Ex-TVR employee who expressed interest in buying the car (for a lot less than I paid him, cheeky bugger!). I was told that there is far less to be gained from uprating to Nitron or Ohlins with these late cars for one thing.
The other thing the last of the Mk 2's benefitted from - but don't get much recognition for because they are so rare - is across the board quality improvements. Whatever else about Nicolai Smolenski, he did pour a hefty chunk of his own cash into this side of things and it shows on later cars. There was also further resources put into developing the speed six going but TVR chose to keep quiet about this as we all know.
The work done on suspension set up in conjunction with Bilstein was fairly major. It was off the back of the Sagaris program but the Tuscan still went through it's own development process. As confirmed by a certain Ex-TVR employee who expressed interest in buying the car (for a lot less than I paid him, cheeky bugger!). I was told that there is far less to be gained from uprating to Nitron or Ohlins with these late cars for one thing.
The other thing the last of the Mk 2's benefitted from - but don't get much recognition for because they are so rare - is across the board quality improvements. Whatever else about Nicolai Smolenski, he did pour a hefty chunk of his own cash into this side of things and it shows on later cars. There was also further resources put into developing the speed six going but TVR chose to keep quiet about this as we all know.
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