Heater heat
Heater heat
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drivingfroggy

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455 posts

221 months

Saturday 19th December 2009
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I'm trying to figure out why my heater only ever blows cold. Is the heat purely controlled by the ecu or does the thermostat play a part like in an everday car? I've looked through my Sag workshop manual, but that is a bit sparse on info. Any ideas?
Cheers
Phill.

x 7usc

1,443 posts

224 months

Sunday 20th December 2009
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ive had this also, could be the stepper motor that controls the hot to cold flap. if yo sit in the car with the fan on very low and turn the heat up and down you should hear the motor moving the flap
1st time it was the motor and the second time the arm had popped off rolleyes

drivingfroggy

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455 posts

221 months

Sunday 20th December 2009
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I hear the flap popping open, all the LEDs light up the fan spins up OK, just no heat. If the thermostat is stuck open/closed (whichever) would that stop the hot water getting to the matrix?

rens914

678 posts

260 months

Sunday 20th December 2009
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if the thermostat is stuck :
closed => you'll have circulation problems (water temp will go up)but the heater could stay cold.
open => there's circulation (temp will stay lower than normal because it doesn't get regulated bij the thermostat) but your heater should work
so if your gauge gives a normal operating temp i don't think this is the right way to go.
you could have air in your system though.
i would still think of problems with the flaps
rens

drivingfroggy

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455 posts

221 months

Sunday 20th December 2009
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Thanks for your replies. I'll have a closer look once the snow has gone

karlx

66 posts

225 months

Monday 21st December 2009
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Hi,

Useful post as I seem to have a similar problem. Where is the fan / heater (is it easy to access)? I think I can hear a fan which sounds like it is on its way out, so I would like to take a look.

BR,

Carlos

drivingfroggy

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455 posts

221 months

Monday 21st December 2009
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Not 100% sure, but I think it all sits in the nearside wing, just outboard of the exhaust manifold. On the Sagaris it shows a removeable panel, not sure about the Tuscan, haven't looked yet.

SteveTusc

143 posts

224 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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If it is your stpper motor--

There are two boxes on the passenger side of the engine bay. One of them will be lagged as this is the hot one containing the heater matrix. Unscrew this box and wrestle it away from the pipe going into the car (Will probably have lots of silkaflex on it!). Once off you will see a flap between the two boxes. This flap is controlled by the stepper motor under it. Straight forward job to remove this and re-fit the replacement (I've got the wiring written down somewhere if you need it?). Only fiddle is making sure the new motor shaft sits in the right position (attaching arm has a flat on it to locate a grub screw). I found that the new motor moves the flap from fully hot to fully cold in a much shorter turn than the led dial in the car. So cold is actually the second green led (when coming from hot). Turning it anymore just grinds the internal cogs of the motor. Taking the orignal motor apart suggests this was the cause of the failure as the cogs had near enough rounded themselves.

Took me about an hour and half to do mine I think.

If you do this and the motor looks ok, you will at least be able to see if the matrix is getting hot or not.

Hope this helps. smile

Edited by SteveTusc on Tuesday 22 December 13:08

drivingfroggy

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455 posts

221 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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That's superb, thanks. Don't know when I'll get a chance to look at it though.

BDM

408 posts

211 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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Must be a nightmare de-misting your screens. I have trouble at the moment and mine works.Lol.

Unless im missing some kind of trick here?

drivingfroggy

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455 posts

221 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2009
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The blower works OK, so it demists. I just have to wear a vest and keep my cardy on hehe