Radio cable adaptor - which one?

[da_murphster]

I want to replace my old radio (the proginal pioneer with tape deck) so I can plug in my ipod/mobile - will hopefully be able to stream radio from my mobile and avoid having to fix my radio reception.

I already have a radio but cannot figure out which adaptor I need for the cables - Halfords, true to form, were useless.

I want to go from this....



to this (supplied cabling) ....



And this is the actual connector on the back of the radio (just in case I do not need the above cabling) - obviously the back of the radio is the female version...



Help appreciated!

[BGB autosport]

I ended up cutting off the standard prioneer connector as you have and soldering in an iso plug. You have two choices, do the above and then connect the lead you have to it, this will then work with pretty much any other head unit or cut the original connector off, cut the lead you have and solder the new stlye head unit connector on directly. I doubt you will find a pioneer to iso so thats your only hope.

[da_murphster]

How did you know what lead connected to what?

I don't mind cutting the leads to make it more 'standard' - esp as adaptors seem to be about £30!

[BGB autosport]

I searched for the pin out for the original radio and just linked that to the ISO pinout, then soldered the lot up. I have them some where. i will dig them out and scan if needed.


I remembered last night, i didnt put an iso lead in. I just put the new head unit connector on the existing wires using the pin outs as above. With the iso connector it would have been too bulky and the head unit would not have fitted nicely.

[da_murphster]

BGB autosport said:

I searched for the pin out for the original radio and just linked that to the ISO pinout, then soldered the lot up. I have them some where. i will dig them out and scan if needed.


I remembered last night, i didnt put an iso lead in. I just put the new head unit connector on the existing wires using the pin outs as above. With the iso connector it would have been too bulky and the head unit would not have fitted nicely.

You’re loosing me there! Just to confirm…..

So you figured out what lead did what by the output of the original radio (is the original radio connectors called ISO?) – diagram would help if you have it.

Cut lead on car - joined wires directly to the wires on the back of the radio - not using the two block adaptors due to space?

I did wonder if there would be room for the two blocks on the new radio. If there is it would be good to have then as would mean can change the radio again in the future if needed.

Its certainly tight back there – was wondering if I could enlarge the hole so can fit the adaptors in better.

[nawarne]

How about going to the Pioneer website and typing in the existing radio/tape deck model number and then finding the installation manual.

I would have thought the manual would give you the 'function' of each wire, then as suggested, solder the connector supplied with the new head unit as per the diagram/wire code in its installation manual.

Nick

[nawarne]

How about going to the Pioneer website and typing in the existing radio/tape deck model number and then finding the installation manual.

I would have thought the manual would give you the 'function' of each wire, then as suggested, solder the connector supplied with the new head unit as per the diagram/wire code in its installation manual.

Nick

[da_murphster]

nawarne said:

How about going to the Pioneer website and typing in the existing radio/tape deck model number and then finding the installation manual.

I would have thought the manual would give you the 'function' of each wire, then as suggested, solder the connector supplied with the new head unit as per the diagram/wire code in its installation manual.

Nick

Considering doing this and maybe using connectors and labelling everything up so can change radio again in the future.

Would be easier to put in a standard connector if there is room.

Original idea is cheaper though!

[NCE 61]

When I had my MK1 Tuscan I changed the OE head unit for a Pioneer in dash sat nav and just cut the original connector off and soldered on an ISO connector using the wiring diagrams with the old and new unit for reference. Was a bit of a tight fit, but I found by removing the pod I could tidy up the wiring and make it all fit much better. Pod removal is quiet easy first remove the centre console one screw under the ash tray and one under the rear air vent and the radio pod is held in with one long M10 bolt.

[da_murphster]

NCE 61 said:

When I had my MK1 Tuscan I changed the OE head unit for a Pioneer in dash sat nav and just cut the original connector off and soldered on an ISO connector using the wiring diagrams with the old and new unit for reference. Was a bit of a tight fit, but I found by removing the pod I could tidy up the wiring and make it all fit much better. Pod removal is quiet easy first remove the centre console one screw under the ash tray and one under the rear air vent and the radio pod is held in with one long M10 bolt.

Interesting……I though removing the pod was a PITA so dismissed the idea. I have taken off the centre consol before no problem.

The radio I am going to put in is just one to get me by so would be good to have the option to easily change it later.

How did you make more room back there? Just by tidying the wiring or did you cut anything out?

[NCE 61]

I did not cut any thing there is already quiet a reasonable size slot there , just tied back the excess cables and pushed them into the slot with tie wraps leaving just enough slack cable to remove the head unit.

[TheGroves]

da_murphster!!!!

STOP PRESS, I had to do exactly the same thing just a few months ago and I can tell all.

You WILL NOT find a Pioneer adapter to fit, however I can guarantee two things, the Pioneer socket in your first photo is connected to the standard ISO box that you are trying to connect it to, and what you'll find at the other end is what you're looking for.

If you have a really good dig about you should feel a plastic wrapped block attached to the Pioneer cable. This is the other end of the Pioneer block to standard ISO block.

I had to slightly enlarge the hole in the dashboard backing, it feels a bit brutal but trust me, with a hacksaw blade, pliars and patience you'll get the block free. the hole is then invisible behind you new head unit.

The ISO block you'll then be faced with should fit whichever cable has come with your new head unit, mine plugged staright in the Apline XDA305 I put into mine.

Hope you get on alright.

M

[TheGroves]

PS: I have Mk1 Tuscan, not sure what you're in but the same should apply.

[da_murphster]

Now that is want I want to hear.

Will have a dig around this week to see if mine is the same.

Thanks - will report back how I do.

[TheGroves]

Good luck, and trust me, its all there at the end of the Pioneer plug.