Tuscan - handling question real life roads and "chuckability
Discussion
right before I ask can I point out I owned a Tuscan Red Rose with originals "dampers of death" which I then upgraded to Gaz Gold Pros (though didn't have a proper geo set up before selling due to "fatherhood angst and good intentions") the car was still twitchy and floaty at speed but wasn't trying to kill me anymore.
(had 255's all round)
anyway
has anyone actually got a decent road handling Tusker? and how much "set-up and gadgetry" did this run to?
logic has set in and after an E46 M3 for a short while I am looking at Tamoras/T350's on the basis of TVR with handling (and not £35,000)
loved the Tuscan to bits - if one can be made to handle then there are a couple of good prospects on Ph
aarrgghhhh!
thanks
(had 255's all round)
anyway
has anyone actually got a decent road handling Tusker? and how much "set-up and gadgetry" did this run to?
logic has set in and after an E46 M3 for a short while I am looking at Tamoras/T350's on the basis of TVR with handling (and not £35,000)
loved the Tuscan to bits - if one can be made to handle then there are a couple of good prospects on Ph
aarrgghhhh!
thanks
Edited by Chewitt on Tuesday 27th July 19:28
Edited by Chewitt on Tuesday 27th July 19:33
may just take you up on that..especially as you have probably encountered the roads around here too!!
but its not just me - lots of Tuscan owners have issues with tramlining, bumpsteer and general nervous feeling handling. Check the SP spacers thread for the views on there.
I've regretted selling the Tuscan since it went - but consoled myself along the lines of "better handling" and 4 seats!
with the need for 4 seats passed to our everyday vehicles.................
but its not just me - lots of Tuscan owners have issues with tramlining, bumpsteer and general nervous feeling handling. Check the SP spacers thread for the views on there.
I've regretted selling the Tuscan since it went - but consoled myself along the lines of "better handling" and 4 seats!
with the need for 4 seats passed to our everyday vehicles.................
Chewitt said:
may just take you up on that..especially as you have probably encountered the roads around here too!!
but its not just me - lots of Tuscan owners have issues with tramlining, bumpsteer and general nervous feeling handling. Check the SP spacers thread for the views on there.
I've regretted selling the Tuscan since it went - but consoled myself along the lines of "better handling" and 4 seats!
with the need for 4 seats passed to our everyday vehicles.................
I agree i have read this often but as i say i don't get it maybe down to mileage?
Mine 2003 8K
2003 Tyres and std shocks spacers fitted which made straight line stability less twitchy but not in a ditch syndrome.
but its not just me - lots of Tuscan owners have issues with tramlining, bumpsteer and general nervous feeling handling. Check the SP spacers thread for the views on there.
I've regretted selling the Tuscan since it went - but consoled myself along the lines of "better handling" and 4 seats!
with the need for 4 seats passed to our everyday vehicles.................
I agree i have read this often but as i say i don't get it maybe down to mileage?
Mine 2003 8K
2003 Tyres and std shocks spacers fitted which made straight line stability less twitchy but not in a ditch syndrome.
sold mine last week but it handeled spot on
had some protech's especially made for me (ask harry/racetechdirect)
toyo's R1r's and 2.0 bar (nitrogen filling)
geometry set up properly with 80 kg's extra load on the drivers side
front splitters and rear spoiler
even on high speed (260 km's) only 1 hand on the steering wheel
rens
had some protech's especially made for me (ask harry/racetechdirect)
toyo's R1r's and 2.0 bar (nitrogen filling)
geometry set up properly with 80 kg's extra load on the drivers side
front splitters and rear spoiler
even on high speed (260 km's) only 1 hand on the steering wheel
rens
mine was 20,000 miles
I'm chasing a stable and planted feel - especially on twisty bits and "normal" roads.
I rarely felt happy enough to use just one hand whilst pottering (though less skittery with GG's) and it would follow every ripple in the road.
I have been following the spacers thread with great interest. One or two folk have said "stable/planted" and almost chuckable!
I'm chasing a stable and planted feel - especially on twisty bits and "normal" roads.
I rarely felt happy enough to use just one hand whilst pottering (though less skittery with GG's) and it would follow every ripple in the road.
I have been following the spacers thread with great interest. One or two folk have said "stable/planted" and almost chuckable!
rens914 said:
sold mine last week but it handeled spot on
had some protech's especially made for me (ask harry/racetechdirect)
toyo's R1r's and 2.0 bar (nitrogen filling)
geometry set up properly with 80 kg's extra load on the drivers side
front splitters and rear spoiler
even on high speed (260 km's) only 1 hand on the steering wheel
rens
Oh dear Rens, 260km/h and you complain about speeding fines had some protech's especially made for me (ask harry/racetechdirect)
toyo's R1r's and 2.0 bar (nitrogen filling)
geometry set up properly with 80 kg's extra load on the drivers side
front splitters and rear spoiler
even on high speed (260 km's) only 1 hand on the steering wheel
rens
I guess a lot of this is how far you define “chuckability”, In other words, how hard do you drive.
Mine has been set up well, has Gaz gold pro’s, I have set the dampers to my preferences, and the ride and handling are 100 times better than standard.
On smooth ish twisty roads in the dry, not much would be quicker. However, throw in some bumps, and dodgy road cambers, and its lack of decent suspension travel shows through.
I would say a decent set up hot hatch would have no trouble leaving you behind.
Of course, throw in a few straitish bits, and you gone.
I do find however, that in the wet, the handling is much better than led to believe, so long as you do not use the throttle as an on/off switch, nice and progressive and capable of travelling a lot faster than most cars, unless lots of standing water of course.
I would say, from what you say about your original Tuscan, you can improve the front end twitchiness with a decent Geo set up, especially toe in. I have not tried these spacers, that seem to work well, but, TBH, I like my front end razor sharp, understeer in my book is a 4 letter word.
Cheers
P.S. Mine is for sale at the moment
Mine has been set up well, has Gaz gold pro’s, I have set the dampers to my preferences, and the ride and handling are 100 times better than standard.
On smooth ish twisty roads in the dry, not much would be quicker. However, throw in some bumps, and dodgy road cambers, and its lack of decent suspension travel shows through.
I would say a decent set up hot hatch would have no trouble leaving you behind.
Of course, throw in a few straitish bits, and you gone.
I do find however, that in the wet, the handling is much better than led to believe, so long as you do not use the throttle as an on/off switch, nice and progressive and capable of travelling a lot faster than most cars, unless lots of standing water of course.
I would say, from what you say about your original Tuscan, you can improve the front end twitchiness with a decent Geo set up, especially toe in. I have not tried these spacers, that seem to work well, but, TBH, I like my front end razor sharp, understeer in my book is a 4 letter word.
Cheers
P.S. Mine is for sale at the moment
Mark A S said:
I have not tried these spacers, that seem to work well, but, TBH, I like my front end razor sharp, understeer in my book is a 4 letter word.
It's just as sharp with the spacers and no understeer is introduced whatsoever? It's just with them fitted the front end now goes where you expect it to. Don't confuse bad steering geometry as being razor sharp steering. rens......looks like "you are the daddy"
from the details earlier..
any details on splitter and wing
what sort of customisation was done on the protechs
any chance of a few pictures of the key areas Graaf?
Spiders?
spacers?
Kart handling is sounding very interesting. Rens quote about being more of a mechanic than a driver seems more and more relevant.
from the details earlier..
any details on splitter and wing
what sort of customisation was done on the protechs
any chance of a few pictures of the key areas Graaf?
Spiders?
spacers?
Kart handling is sounding very interesting. Rens quote about being more of a mechanic than a driver seems more and more relevant.
Sorry
no time for tuscans anymore
working on my speedboat V8 5.0 liter
and
tuning my lawnmower. (bigger cilinder, carb and open exhaust system)
it doesnt cut better but sure is faster
:0))
for the protech's. contact Harry at race direct. he will set-up youre new schock's the way i had them. Erwin had them made this way last month.
like i see it. better and cheaper than gaz golds and nitrons.
you definitly need the S backspoiler and front spoiler or even beter winglets to get a better handling car. without that the car gets a lift on high speed.
as youre almost allways driving the car alone on high speed have them set-up youre geo settings with extra (youre)weight on the drivers seat.
and add the spacers.
and
buy some decent tyres (front 225-40-18 back 255-35-18)ehmmmmm TOyo RiR
as the car is psi sensitive take out the air and fill them with nitrogen (the pressure will always be spot on)
voila
no rocket science
no time for tuscans anymore
working on my speedboat V8 5.0 liter
and
tuning my lawnmower. (bigger cilinder, carb and open exhaust system)
it doesnt cut better but sure is faster
:0))
for the protech's. contact Harry at race direct. he will set-up youre new schock's the way i had them. Erwin had them made this way last month.
like i see it. better and cheaper than gaz golds and nitrons.
you definitly need the S backspoiler and front spoiler or even beter winglets to get a better handling car. without that the car gets a lift on high speed.
as youre almost allways driving the car alone on high speed have them set-up youre geo settings with extra (youre)weight on the drivers seat.
and add the spacers.
and
buy some decent tyres (front 225-40-18 back 255-35-18)ehmmmmm TOyo RiR
as the car is psi sensitive take out the air and fill them with nitrogen (the pressure will always be spot on)
voila
no rocket science
Edited by rens914 on Thursday 29th July 18:12
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