Why so many Tuscs in the classifieds?
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Pretty much as above.
There must have been many more Chims built than Tuscans yet there are only 60+ Chims and 40+ Tuscs listed at the moment. Is this because of cost of ownership, people fullfilling their dream and moving on before things get expensive or other factors?
On a personal note I have nothing against Tuscans and love pretty much all Tivs
There must have been many more Chims built than Tuscans yet there are only 60+ Chims and 40+ Tuscs listed at the moment. Is this because of cost of ownership, people fullfilling their dream and moving on before things get expensive or other factors?
On a personal note I have nothing against Tuscans and love pretty much all Tivs
i think that regarding the looks of the tuscan it's a "must have owned" for a lot of people.
but with a lot of these things it's only a toy
besides that this toy shows a lot of people that their driving skills are a lot less than they thought before
first thing that has to go when something changes (house, wedding, kid, unemployment)is the toy
perhaps even the average age of the chimaera owners is higher
that could make a difference too
but as nice a all the other models are
a tvr without a speedsix is second best to me
rens
but with a lot of these things it's only a toy
besides that this toy shows a lot of people that their driving skills are a lot less than they thought before
first thing that has to go when something changes (house, wedding, kid, unemployment)is the toy
perhaps even the average age of the chimaera owners is higher
that could make a difference too
but as nice a all the other models are
a tvr without a speedsix is second best to me
rens
Edited by rens914 on Saturday 25th December 12:19
Its weird though. Some cars sell very quickly others take an age and it can be hard to tell why. Rebuild is a big issue and the running costs can put a lot of people off as a long term proposition.
Chim/Griff is much easier t maintain yourself or even by any local garage, Speed Six cars are more complex so the costs are higher.
Chim/Griff is much easier t maintain yourself or even by any local garage, Speed Six cars are more complex so the costs are higher.
Well as one of the people who has their Tuscan for sale at the moment, mine is the one at X Works, Rens is spot on with his reasons. Well the bit about having to sell the toy!!! I have loved every minute of my Tuscan ownership and if I felt I could afford to hang on it then I would. They are not the cheapest car to maintain but like all REAL performance cars that ownership comes with a cost. The one good thing now though is many of the Tuscan's issues can be resolved and if they are they make wonderful cars.
If my one sells I will really miss it.
Regards
Fin
If my one sells I will really miss it.
Regards
Fin
Might be some people do there home work and reserch, look on here and see not much other than Doom,gloom, breakdown,and negative postings about the model.
Look at a few pages on this forum nealy all say bad car to buy and warn people off
Tuscan nice looks, bull s
ted performance with unreliability and expensive bills
Thats the true Tuscan its all here page after page in writing,
Then you all moan and criticise when a guy tries to sort the brand out
Thats why they are a bad seller
Look at a few pages on this forum nealy all say bad car to buy and warn people off
Tuscan nice looks, bull s
ted performance with unreliability and expensive bills Thats the true Tuscan its all here page after page in writing,
Then you all moan and criticise when a guy tries to sort the brand out
Thats why they are a bad seller
Not sure the doom and gloom is specific to Tuscan more just S6 engine and tvr reliability in general, usually from those who haven't driven one or are looking to buy.. Having recently bought a tuscan and read mountains of posts there are many positive posts as well and most problems seem to have a common fix.
End of the day it was always the Tvr I wanted as it's undoubtedly the best looking Tvr, performance is mental, and even servicing can be reasonable with the likes of green star offering 12k services for just over 300 quid.
End of the day it was always the Tvr I wanted as it's undoubtedly the best looking Tvr, performance is mental, and even servicing can be reasonable with the likes of green star offering 12k services for just over 300 quid.
froggie said:
Might be some people do there home work and reserch, look on here and see not much other than Doom,gloom, breakdown,and negative postings about the model.
Look at a few pages on this forum nealy all say bad car to buy and warn people
off
Tuscan nice looks, bull sted performance with unreliability and
expensive bills
Thats the true Tuscan its all here page after page in writing,
Then you all moan and criticise when a guy tries to sort the brand out
Thats why they are a bad seller
I don't agree that the Tuscan is a bad seller. They will be slow selling at this time of year but the same would apply for all TVR models & indeed most sportscars.Look at a few pages on this forum nealy all say bad car to buy and warn people
off
Tuscan nice looks, bull s
ted performance with unreliability and expensive bills
Thats the true Tuscan its all here page after page in writing,
Then you all moan and criticise when a guy tries to sort the brand out
Thats why they are a bad seller
I followed the market for a while & most of the Tuscans listed in the Spring & Summer sold reasonably quickly, particularly those priced at the lower end.
The fact remains, as said above, is that the car is one that people tend to own for a short period of time. As other priorities surface, the weekend car is the first thing to go.
The S6 engine does have it's known issues but the future is looking brighter with the reliable rebuilds & warranties that are available. I have always wanted a TVR & did a lot of research beforehand. The negative comments did not put me off.
Forums are full of negative comments for all cars. That's what people post about. I have a BMW also & the forum I post on is full of people with problems such as Vanos units failing & Nickosil problems. Most owners don't post about the good experiences they have. I know a number of Tuscan owners who have had little or no trouble with their cars. Even Dom at TVR Power has been quoted as saying that they're seeing less & less S6 engined cars with problems.
Taking into account the performance available, it's natural that they are going to be more expensive to run than an average car. They are however IMO a lot less expensive to maintain than other sportscars with similar performance.
froggie said:
Might be some people do there home work and reserch, look on here and see not much other than Doom,gloom, breakdown,and negative postings about the model.
Look at a few pages on this forum nealy all say bad car to buy and warn people
off
Tuscan nice looks, bull sted performance with unreliability and
expensive bills
Thats the true Tuscan its all here page after page in writing,
Then you all moan and criticise when a guy tries to sort the brand out
Thats why they are a bad seller
I don't agree that the Tuscan is a bad seller. They will be slow selling at this time of year but the same would apply for all TVR models & indeed most sportscars.Look at a few pages on this forum nealy all say bad car to buy and warn people
off
Tuscan nice looks, bull s
ted performance with unreliability and expensive bills
Thats the true Tuscan its all here page after page in writing,
Then you all moan and criticise when a guy tries to sort the brand out
Thats why they are a bad seller
I followed the market for a while & most of the Tuscans listed in the Spring & Summer sold reasonably quickly, particularly those priced at the lower end.
The fact remains, as said above, is that the car is one that people tend to own for a short period of time. As other priorities surface, the weekend car is the first thing to go.
The S6 engine does have it's known issues but the future is looking brighter with the reliable rebuilds & warranties that are available. I have always wanted a TVR & did a lot of research beforehand. The negative comments did not put me off.
Forums are full of negative comments for all cars. That's what people post about. I have a BMW also & the forum I post on is full of people with problems such as Vanos units failing & Nickosil problems. Most owners don't post about the good experiences they have. I know a number of Tuscan owners who have had little or no trouble with their cars. Even Dom at TVR Power has been quoted as saying that they're seeing less & less S6 engined cars with problems.
Taking into account the performance available, it's natural that they are going to be more expensive to run than an average car. They are however IMO a lot less expensive to maintain than other sportscars with similar performance.
The fact remains, as said above, is that the car is one that people tend to own for a short period of time. As other priorities surface, the weekend car is the first thing to go.
Thank god theirs Aston martins to down grade to when the going gets tough.
That's where a most of ex tuscan owners seam to end up.
Watching + waiting for the next generation of Tuscan to evolve bigger better and stronger than before.
TVRs are a bit like Lotuses in that men love them and buy them when they're single, then they meet a woman who'll pretend to like it at first but we all know she really hates the noisy thing and will soon use her evil mind rays to persuade him to sell it.
Of course there's a lot about TVR's reputation to frighten the conservative buyer and there's a fair amount of stick to put up with. Take it abroad and all the brits will say 'you're brave' which gets a bit tiring after a while.
However I doubt there's any other make of car that inspires repeat purchase as much as a TVR. Ex TVR owners tend to find that there is nothing else out there quite like them. Plus also that other cars have problems too and that experience of other more 'prestigious' brands often only makes you appreciate your old TVR all the more, which was probably quicker, sounded better and had a lot more character. More than likely they'll want another one, and eventually end-up getting another one. Presumably in the gap between wives 1 and 2.
Of course there's a lot about TVR's reputation to frighten the conservative buyer and there's a fair amount of stick to put up with. Take it abroad and all the brits will say 'you're brave' which gets a bit tiring after a while.
However I doubt there's any other make of car that inspires repeat purchase as much as a TVR. Ex TVR owners tend to find that there is nothing else out there quite like them. Plus also that other cars have problems too and that experience of other more 'prestigious' brands often only makes you appreciate your old TVR all the more, which was probably quicker, sounded better and had a lot more character. More than likely they'll want another one, and eventually end-up getting another one. Presumably in the gap between wives 1 and 2.
You're right about the woman issue ..... only I didn't sell it!!! Ha ha
By the way, also interested in the gap between ....
By the way, also interested in the gap between ....
The Pits said:
TVRs are a bit like Lotuses in that men love them and buy them when they're single, then they meet a woman who'll pretend to like it at first but we all know she really hates the noisy thing and will soon use her evil mind rays to persuade him to sell it.
Of course there's a lot about TVR's reputation to frighten the conservative buyer and there's a fair amount of stick to put up with. Take it abroad and all the brits will say 'you're brave' which gets a bit tiring after a while.
However I doubt there's any other make of car that inspires repeat purchase as much as a TVR. Ex TVR owners tend to find that there is nothing else out there quite like them. Plus also that other cars have problems too and that experience of other more 'prestigious' brands often only makes you appreciate your old TVR all the more, which was probably quicker, sounded better and had a lot more character. More than likely they'll want another one, and eventually end-up getting another one. Presumably in the gap between wives 1 and 2.
Of course there's a lot about TVR's reputation to frighten the conservative buyer and there's a fair amount of stick to put up with. Take it abroad and all the brits will say 'you're brave' which gets a bit tiring after a while.
However I doubt there's any other make of car that inspires repeat purchase as much as a TVR. Ex TVR owners tend to find that there is nothing else out there quite like them. Plus also that other cars have problems too and that experience of other more 'prestigious' brands often only makes you appreciate your old TVR all the more, which was probably quicker, sounded better and had a lot more character. More than likely they'll want another one, and eventually end-up getting another one. Presumably in the gap between wives 1 and 2.
Edited by engelborghs on Tuesday 28th December 20:27
Edited by engelborghs on Tuesday 28th December 20:30
Stating the obvious, forums are where people go to ask assistance for fixing problems themselves without paying dealer labour rates - hence you get a lot of problems being discussed. It's the same for many marques.
Some also think they can get away with talking pi$h about a brand/vehicle without having to speak face to face with experts or owners clubs etc.
These days most people know what to expect from forums in general and go into TVR ownership with eyes wide open. The Tuscan is a hard-core enthusiasts vehicle, brilliant in many ways but not generally a shopping car. It needs occasional specialist maintenance, which to me is not a big surprise. I've no intention of selling mine as it's close to perfect now the bits and bobs are done by a mixture of myself and HHC.
J
Some also think they can get away with talking pi$h about a brand/vehicle without having to speak face to face with experts or owners clubs etc.
These days most people know what to expect from forums in general and go into TVR ownership with eyes wide open. The Tuscan is a hard-core enthusiasts vehicle, brilliant in many ways but not generally a shopping car. It needs occasional specialist maintenance, which to me is not a big surprise. I've no intention of selling mine as it's close to perfect now the bits and bobs are done by a mixture of myself and HHC.
J
The Pits said:
However I doubt there's any other make of car that inspires repeat purchase as much as a TVR. Ex TVR owners tend to find that there is nothing else out there quite like them. Plus also that other cars have problems too and that experience of other more 'prestigious' brands often only makes you appreciate your old TVR all the more, which was probably quicker, sounded better and had a lot more character. More than likely they'll want another one, and eventually end-up getting another one. Presumably in the gap between wives 1 and 2.
Totally agree with the repeat purchase comment, once they get under your skin you just can't get rid of the need for another one.I agree M3,
When I sold my Tuscan I tried to forget about TVRs, but when I saw one on the road I was wooping and shouting like a 6year old!!. I did look at a few other Marques but nothing excited me( within my budget)as much as my Tuscan. So Now I am in a Cerbera SP6(rear seats and kids) and can't imagine not having one in my garage now.
When I sold my Tuscan I tried to forget about TVRs, but when I saw one on the road I was wooping and shouting like a 6year old!!. I did look at a few other Marques but nothing excited me( within my budget)as much as my Tuscan. So Now I am in a Cerbera SP6(rear seats and kids) and can't imagine not having one in my garage now.
zooto said:
Oh dear this topic is making me feel really bad about having to sell my Tuscan. I have a horrible feeling that once it goes I am really going to regret it. They really are a fantastic bit of kit.
Alas needs must
Trust me, you will regret it. Sold mine last year and have regretted it ever since. Unfortunately finances mean I can't get another one for a couple of years but the days are counting down until I can.Alas needs must
Chaps - I would strongly recommend looking into options to not sell your Tuscan.
Like others said on earlier posts, you WILL regret it for all the reasons quoted - they are quite true. I sold a T350 a few years back and regretted it every sodding day until I was so cantankerous (and bored) after about a year I simply had to get another TVR. What a relief to get the Tuscan. Life back to normal, phew.
Anyway, selling now and buying again later is only going to put profit in someone else's pocket. It doesn't make long term financial sense.
Plus, the cars you have now you already researched and know the history of, good and bad points. Always better to be in a position of knowledge.
J
Like others said on earlier posts, you WILL regret it for all the reasons quoted - they are quite true. I sold a T350 a few years back and regretted it every sodding day until I was so cantankerous (and bored) after about a year I simply had to get another TVR. What a relief to get the Tuscan. Life back to normal, phew.
Anyway, selling now and buying again later is only going to put profit in someone else's pocket. It doesn't make long term financial sense.
Plus, the cars you have now you already researched and know the history of, good and bad points. Always better to be in a position of knowledge.
J
Unless you have had a terrible TVR experience, Then you will want another, if not a Tuscan then another TVR, there is nothing else like them around there price point in my opinion.
I new the minute the new owner of my Tuscan drove away I had Fecked Up . The sound of it driving away might well have been the new owner unloading a AK47 into me, The pain couldn't have been any worse!!. I
I new the minute the new owner of my Tuscan drove away I had Fecked Up . The sound of it driving away might well have been the new owner unloading a AK47 into me, The pain couldn't have been any worse!!. I
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