Citroen Stop/Start
Stuck in traffic - engine dies, prod the throttle to get it going again
At the next Paris Motor Show, the Citroën brand will present the "Citroën C3 Stop & Start". They claim that it's the first car to be equipped with a system that cuts the engine when the car is stopped and idling (at red lights, for deliveries, in traffic jams, etc.), then instantly restarts it at the touch of the accelerator.
The PSA Peugeot Citroën innovation will be supported by another advanced technology already commercially available on the C3, the SensoDrive electronically controlled manual gearbox. It will be presented on a model powered by a gasoline engine.
The "Stop & Start" system is expected to reduce fuel consumption by around 10% for urban driving and by 6% in the standard combined cycle.
In line with the Group’s strategic focus on developing "useful technology for everyone", Stop & Start systems will be gradually offered on other Citroën and Peugeot models, delivering benefits for both customers, in the form of better fuel economy, and society as a whole, in the form of lower CO2 emissions.
Trials conducted in a large urban environment have demonstrated that in typical customer use, cars are standing still 30% of the time. This means that, in addition to improved fuel economy and lower CO2 emissions, customers and the urban environment will also benefit from the fact that the cars are completely quiet during the many periods when they are not moving.
Volkswagen didn't have a system like this several years ago, no siree.
It had a fairly high profile when it came out, around 1993/4 i think. Autocar even did a roadtest of it.
Funny how you can do a roadtest of a car that doesn't exist, isn't it Citroen? So who's going to get fired for this one then?
VS
A snail said:
Trials conducted in a large urban environment have demonstrated that in typical customer use, cars are standing still 30% of the time. This means that, in addition to improved fuel economy and lower CO2 emissions, customers and the urban environment will also benefit from the fact that the cars are completely quiet during the many periods when they are not moving.
Imagine if all cars were like this. I imagine the noise of lots of car engines starting and stopping at junctions/traffic lights will be noisier and worse for the environment then if they were just ticking over quietly.
It sounds like a sales gimmick to me. Perhaps the need to keep up with Japanese technology and make it look like they are doing something towards the environment.
I'll be happy to be proven wrong if it does work though.
Plus, how are the boy racers going to get their kicks? no more revving at the traffic lights!
Id rather drive my car than be a passenger. Traffic lights are down time to listen to see that the engine is running right and conduct a full sweep of the many gauges to see that all is well!
Is it just me being a little 'under the influence' tonight or am I noticing that just lately the PH staff are becoming somewhat 'jaded and sarcastic' in their otherwise fair and un-biased reporting styles.
Not that I don't most-times agree with Ted's crew but .... well ... you know.
user D said:
>> Is it just me being a little 'under the influence' tonight or am I noticing that just lately the PH staff are becoming somewhat 'jaded and sarcastic' in their otherwise fair and un-biased reporting styles.
Nope. They've always been jaded and sarcastic. Maybe you just didn't notice before
Still, I remember the research well. German post office bought a load and they ended up with MPG figures well into the 50's for urban driving. Not bad considering we are talking very early first generation diesels! Died a death from then as it was just too expensive and you really needed to use them in stop-start city traffic to get any benefit...
She bought because it was also a clutchless manual transmission and she had leg pains at the time and didn't like autos. The stop/start worked fine, it had a button on the end of one stalk to stop it turning itself off at crucial junctions etc.
It was a very dieselly diesel tho; would be nice if VW would revive the system now so I could have it on my comparitively civilised PD 130, esp. the clutchless change bit.
AdrianR
Road_Terrorist said:
too bad if you want the air-con on while at the lights
Or indeed have a sodding big turbo running very hot that requires oil flow to cool it.....
...I have a turbo timer. So it's going to run for a few minutes after I've pulled the keys out and locked the thing.....
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