RE: Nowhere to park in five years, finds research
RE: Nowhere to park in five years, finds research
Wednesday 8th December 2004

Nowhere to park in five years, finds research

Motorists are ignored and treated as cash-cows, says RAC Foundation


Owning a car in the UK could soon become a nightmare, as the country will run out of parking spaces within the next five years unless radical steps are taken to solve the growing shortage, according to a report from the RAC Foundation.

The report, entiitled The Way Ahead, concludes that "policies on parking are often ill thought-out and inconsistent; that the execution of parking policies for example, on-street regulation of parking has drifted away from the purposes for which it was intended and provokes needless irritation: that policies on off-street parking are confused: and that the needs and interests of the consumer, who pays for it all, in one way or another, are neglected."

Territorial battles over parking slots are now a feature of residential life, with the number of cars exceeding official spaces in some areas, and nearly a third of motorists already abandoning their journeys because they cannot find anywhere to park, reveals the survey.

Its solution is parking schemes integrated with other transport developments, a fair price for the service, public policies to take account of future parking requirements, and cleareer government guidance on parking issues.

"Restricting parking does not curb car ownership. We believe that within five years the situation will reach a crisis point with a doubling in the number of motorists abandoning their journeys unless action is taken," Edmund King, the executive director of the RAC Foundation was quoted by the Independent as saying.

The report is here: www.racfoundation.org/our_research/way_ahead_dec04.pdf

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britten_mark

Original Poster:

1,602 posts

275 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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"Motorists are ignored and treated as cash-cows, says RAC Foundation"

No shit, Sherlock.

TeamD

5,060 posts

254 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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No kidding!

Still it all fits in with New Labours' belief that it is ok to persecute so-called 'anti-social' groups in society. Now initially, this meant 'Smokers', but is increasingly being widened to other groups such as drinkers, fox hunters and drivers. And all in the name of a better life for those poor impoverished 'other' people whose lives are so blighted by anything, that YOU ir I might enjoy doing.

richardthestag

1,406 posts

255 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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But B'liar and his gov do protect the criminal.

Wonder what level of force Michael H will allow us to protect our property with!



Richard

RichB

55,162 posts

306 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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Hardly surprising though is it, with Fatty Prescott's department insisting that new office buildings are constructed with about half the parking space required for the number of workstations! Of course this suits the developers nicely; more square footage per acre and suites B’liar and Fatty Two Jag's because they can claim to be pandering to the green lobby. The people who suffer are us, the public, ‘cos we’re the people who have to work in them! What a lunatic way to run a country! Rich...

v8thunder

27,647 posts

280 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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Anyone noticed that the average parking space is shrinking too? The doors on the Punto are quite large so I have trouble slipping out of them without rubbing against another car at times, and the length seems designed for little hatches rather than anything with a boot.

I did an article last year on the fact that, due to their dominance over what happens on the roads, the government are like Microsoft - a monopoly that knows it can screw you over for more cash because you've got no alternative, and it simply sees motorists as a source of revenue, like assets in a business plan.

That's why every penny spent on the roads is deliberately engineered to make it either miserable, difficult or impossible to drive, yet they know you need the car so you keep coming back for more - it's positively sadistic.

And does anyone else question the need for so many one-way systems, restricted zones, pedestrianised areas and bus/taxi-only roads? Surely if congestion is a problem we should be allowing traffic to flow as freely as possible through as many routes as possible, rather than literally creating congestion with bus lanes and artificial bottlenecks, and blaming the motorist again for congestion he or she can't do anything about.

richardthestag

1,406 posts

255 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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And when you do find a space, Adolf the Parking warden will ticket you for having dirty hubcaps.

My misses parked legally at the side of a road correctly steering the front wheels towards the kerb as she was on a hill. Gets back to the car and there is a ticket on the screen because a tyre is touching the kerb !!!!

Appealed and lost, paid via cheque but hawked up a dockers omelette into the envelope before sealing it.


rutthenut

202 posts

285 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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Wonderful this, isn't it? The planning system used for new developments specifies the amount of parking spaces to be provided. To pander to the green lobby, to p155 off car owners, and to increae profit for developers, the parking requirement gets reduced.

The claimed theory is that this will increase the use of public transport. Are there any realistic statistics to show that this policy ever works???

These rulings get embedded into the planning policy of the Government and of the local borough councils. I see that my local council, Guildford, give the aforementioned excuse and state that new developments may provide between 0% and 25% of the 'standard' for allotted parking spaces. That's right - between nought and a quarter of some nationally-determined figure!

Crap.

350matt

3,859 posts

301 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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So if everbody is going to stop using their cars won't this mean less cash for the government? Or are they just intending to make our lives more difficult without providing an alternative means of transport? which in turn lowers productivity and again reduces the cash for the government....

Yeesh

accident

582 posts

278 months

Friday 10th December 2004
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but for most people there is no public transport alternative.
i am lucky in that my company suplies me a truck to work from home so i dont have to find a work parking space(i did have to lose some lawn to make space outside my house).
so if company x has 300 people working in its building it should supply 300 parking spaces of finace a company work bus to pick up and drop off its worforce(probably cheaper longterm than the parking space)

danp

1,641 posts

284 months

Sunday 12th December 2004
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I have been looking at moving, and looked at a few brand new houses...in their wisdom the government (don't know if it's a local policy) appears to only allow the developers to provide one parking space per house (in almost all cases)

They also will not allow the residents to apply for on street parking permits...

There is even a 5 bedroom, £500 000 townhouse of nearly 2000sq ft...and it comes with *one* parking space (no garage)...dunno how the developers are gonna sell that one...one car between hubbie, wife and the 2.4 kids ? mmmm

GetCarter

30,659 posts

301 months

Sunday 12th December 2004
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v8thunder said:
Anyone noticed that the average parking space is shrinking too? The doors on the Punto are quite large so I have trouble slipping out of them without rubbing against another car at times, and the length seems designed for little hatches rather than anything with a boot.


You should try the RS6! (and why is it that although I always park at the far end of any supermarket car park with dozens of spaces each side, when I return - some git has parked right next to me (driver side) so I have to climb through the passenger door?)

tut

Steve

richardthestag

1,406 posts

255 months

Monday 13th December 2004
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GetCarter said:
when I return - some git has parked right next to me (driver side) so I have to climb through the passenger door?)


Do what I do and park across two spaces. Might annoy a few people but it is saving me a fortune in paint touchups caused by Ray Charles throwing his door into the side of my P&J when ever he parks next to me!!