RE: Prodrive fixes Focus RS
RE: Prodrive fixes Focus RS
Friday 4th March 2005

Prodrive fixes Focus RS

New active diff adds traction and stops 'wheel fight'


Prodrive is putting its Active Torque Dynamics (ATD) system onto a front wheel drive (FWD) car for the first time. The motorsport and automotive technology specialist is building its first FWD prototype and using the Ford Focus RS as a demonstrator.

Prodrive has already built 11 ATD prototype vehicles; nine based on four-wheel drive vehicles and two on rear-drive cars. With the increasing popularity of high performance, FWD cars, like Focus RS, maintaining traction without compromising the ride and handling is becoming an issue.

“To give these cars better traction and excellent handling characteristics on smooth roads and circuits, some high performance front wheel drive vehicles have a limited slip differential on the front axle,” said chief dynamics engineer Damian Harty. “The consequence of this is that such cars can suffer from ‘wheel fight’, with the vehicle wanting to steer itself from side to side, as it is accelerated on surfaces that are slightly uneven or with differing levels of traction at each wheel. It can be unnerving for a driver and lead to a poor impression.”

On the Prodrive ATD Focus, the standard limited slip differential is replaced with an active differential, which can be opened or closed to give the best solution in any scenario. As a result, the differential can be locked when traction is required, but in an event where ‘wheel fight’ may occur the differential lock can be softened enabling the wheels to turn at different speeds and finding the optimum balance between traction and wheel fight.

Through mapping of the ATD software, the tendency to understeer can also be suppressed, while the differential can help ‘steer’ the car into a slide to help correct oversteer.

“This represents an exciting opportunity, delivering some of the benefits of active steering without the difficult failure modes,” said Harty.

In production, the ATD system would use all the existing sensors on a car and replace the existing differential with an active unit. As a result, the additional cost to the consumer would only amount to a matter of a few hundred dollars.

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z_chromozone

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1,436 posts

271 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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A few hundred $ on the price of a new car is peanuts, surely is should be standard equipment for that.

Z

dans_fx

13 posts

255 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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I'm guessing it probably would be. The car would just be fractionally more expensive to compensate. Worth it really.

top brake

62 posts

283 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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alternatively buy a 147 GTA

ashworth

8 posts

251 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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This should have been on there to begin with. The RS cost for £27000 to build after all (no wonder numbers were limited).

However you have to realise the RS was designed for track supremacy - where it is an uncompromised winner. On uk roads its less amazing (which is where the "wheel fight" is more apparent but I do think the problem is overstated. A close friend has owned one since new and still loves it - he has no complaints.

You pays your money you makes your choice - at least its not another bloody scooby

annodomini2

6,962 posts

273 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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name said:
A few hundred $ on the price of a new car is peanuts, surely is should be standard equipment for that.

Z


Car manufacturers count pennies on cars! saving £2-3 on 200,000 cars is a lot of money!!

summit7

1,054 posts

251 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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Wish my AlfaSud TI had one in the eighties!

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

273 months

Sunday 6th March 2005
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Sounds like a great innovation, but at the price it will only really make it onto the more bespoke vehicles.

Most vehicle programme teams will look at the alternatives - plate diffs, torsen and quaife, plus hydratrak, viscotrak etc, and look at the cost benefit analysis. Put the competition from makers of ABS units that provide IVD in the room and they will tell you to ditch the LSD and use their system entirely.

It needs BMW to put it on the Mini Cooper to make other manufacturers adopt rapidly.

gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

258 months

Sunday 6th March 2005
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LOL - the focus already has a quaife ATB fitted to it as standard

I used to have a LSD in mine and now have a quaife ATB fitted - its awesome you can drive the car with one hand now !!

I also know of another type of diff that is being developed

its neither a LSD or a ATB or a ATD

how much is the ATD ?

I guess the question is which is fastest round a track the ATB or the ATD ?

>> Edited by gadgeroonie on Sunday 6th March 17:33