Rover has stopped production!
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ledfoot said:
Story breaking on BBC News that the receivers have been called in. Looks bleak.
I have no sympathy at all for MG Rover.
The cars are rubbish
Should have closed Longbridge down last time they were in trouble.
The Rover models are no more rubbish than about 75% of mass market models..
And some of the MG models are far better than many MGR 'knockers' are aware of..
Goes to show how unpatriotic our country has become and im sure the 18,000 odd people who stand to lose their jobs will be equally impressed!!
Remember longbridge has been making cars for 101 years!! Its part of the English Heritage and deserves a degree of faith... (considering the many millions that are wasted on hair-brain schemes.. like big millenium tents and changing a lane of the M4 into a Bus and politican lane!!!)
have you morons got any idea what this means for not just 6000 at longbridge, but perhaps 15,000 others in supply industries?
"the cars are rubbish" well thanks for that wonderful brainless comment, they may not be your taste but they are to some others. The downfall of the british motor industry and the manufacturing it supports benefits no one
but hey lets make some more cheap comments about Rover for fun eh. BMW destroyed the company and took its best assets, but there a cool company arent they!?
"the cars are rubbish" well thanks for that wonderful brainless comment, they may not be your taste but they are to some others. The downfall of the british motor industry and the manufacturing it supports benefits no one
but hey lets make some more cheap comments about Rover for fun eh. BMW destroyed the company and took its best assets, but there a cool company arent they!?
Looks like the government have moved, only an inch but at least its something:
www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=8123819
Not sure her visit to Longbridge would be a good decision if the government didn't do something. Still, how far is £40m going to travel?
Rick
www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=8123819
Not sure her visit to Longbridge would be a good decision if the government didn't do something. Still, how far is £40m going to travel?
Rick
20,000 jobs will be lost.
The cars are not rubbish, as anyone who has driven a ZS180 will tell you. If MG could make a cracking drivers car out of an old 400/Honda, I would have loved to have seen what they could have done with some real development money.
I see nothing to celebrate about the fact we will no longer have any mainstream car industry in this country, while foreign manufacturers grow rich trading on filched Britishness.
The cars are not rubbish, as anyone who has driven a ZS180 will tell you. If MG could make a cracking drivers car out of an old 400/Honda, I would have loved to have seen what they could have done with some real development money.
I see nothing to celebrate about the fact we will no longer have any mainstream car industry in this country, while foreign manufacturers grow rich trading on filched Britishness.
Another large part of our british heritage lost forever. Pity BLiar and his mob cant do something to help them out. Thats is a lot of people who have a very worrying future in front of them.
I just cant see how the Rover/MG cars can be called rubbish. Just my view and no I do not drive a Rover.
I just cant see how the Rover/MG cars can be called rubbish. Just my view and no I do not drive a Rover.
Thing that annoyed me was the comment from an Inst of Directors bod.
Initially talked sense that any solution must be workable in the long term as we don't want to be back here in 1, 3 , 5 years.
Then he said the site would make an ideal place for another Merry Hill style shopping centre and cited that now 3x more people worked on that site than at the previous engineering employers.
They are all part time minimum wage (or near) jobs based on trading economy, rather than valued added work.
Initially talked sense that any solution must be workable in the long term as we don't want to be back here in 1, 3 , 5 years.
Then he said the site would make an ideal place for another Merry Hill style shopping centre and cited that now 3x more people worked on that site than at the previous engineering employers.
They are all part time minimum wage (or near) jobs based on trading economy, rather than valued added work.A very sad day for the british motor industry.
Being involved in the commerial property sector, i whitness how the government hands out £million upon million to regeneration schemes in the hope of creating an insignificant number of new jobs. Common scence would suggest investing in existing sectors to maintain existing jobs would be the way forward.
This is a big blow for Britain, our farming and rural economy is on its knees, large scale manufacturing looks to all but vanish , another step closer to Tony's vision of a country made up of call centres and drive thru burger joints.
Rule Britania!!!!!!!
Being involved in the commerial property sector, i whitness how the government hands out £million upon million to regeneration schemes in the hope of creating an insignificant number of new jobs. Common scence would suggest investing in existing sectors to maintain existing jobs would be the way forward.
This is a big blow for Britain, our farming and rural economy is on its knees, large scale manufacturing looks to all but vanish , another step closer to Tony's vision of a country made up of call centres and drive thru burger joints.
Rule Britania!!!!!!!
the ringmeister said:
Being involved in the commerial property sector, i whitness how the government hands out £million upon million to regeneration schemes in the hope of creating an insignificant number of new jobs. Common scence would suggest investing in existing sectors to maintain existing jobs would be the way forward.Rule Britania!!!!!!!
It would make even more sense to do away with handouts, cut red tape and taxes, and the multi-billion-pounds worth of civil servants we need to administer them, and let business get on with trying to survive in the global market place.
Insteadb though, inevetably whoever wins the next election will just p**s about re-arranging the deck chairs whilst the Titanic (UK) is steaming merrily towards the icberg that is economic disaster.
At one time, the sun never set on the British empire - now we're not far of permanent darkness!
Trying to run an engineering company in the present climate, this obviously worries me.
It does however make me think that BMW was right to have a go at the MG Rover board about multi-million bonusses, when the company has obviously heading this way for a while.
Lots of things that could have been done in hidsight, but not sure where we go from here. I wouldn't be opposed to a government rescue, BUT, it would have to be on the proviso that the rescuer had power to manage, rather than pander to all those with vested interests - otherwise it just goes like the railways, with every extra pound being hoovered up by the employees in fantastic pay deals, and contractors in lucrative partnership arrangements.
As has been said above, a true level playingfield, where correct market rates are calculated would be great. Just can't see it happening somehow
It does however make me think that BMW was right to have a go at the MG Rover board about multi-million bonusses, when the company has obviously heading this way for a while.
Lots of things that could have been done in hidsight, but not sure where we go from here. I wouldn't be opposed to a government rescue, BUT, it would have to be on the proviso that the rescuer had power to manage, rather than pander to all those with vested interests - otherwise it just goes like the railways, with every extra pound being hoovered up by the employees in fantastic pay deals, and contractors in lucrative partnership arrangements.
As has been said above, a true level playingfield, where correct market rates are calculated would be great. Just can't see it happening somehow
jl34 said:
have you morons got any idea what this means for not just 6000 at longbridge, but perhaps 15,000 others in supply industries?
"the cars are rubbish" well thanks for that wonderful brainless comment, they may not be your taste but they are to some others. The downfall of the british motor industry and the manufacturing it supports benefits no one
but hey lets make some more cheap comments about Rover for fun eh. BMW destroyed the company and took its best assets, but there a cool company arent they!?
Indeed - But 60 million car capacity and 40 million sales for a world car industry means that something has to give. Having dealt with Rover (when owned by BMW) when I was working for LUCAS (RIP) I really feel for those that are not to blame.
Not driven a Rover Car, since I owned a 85 METRO Turbo in the early 90's. and I now drive an 85 vauxhall so am not in a position to comment on product. My 65 year old auntie recently bought a CITY rover and says it's a FINE car. The 25 was too BIG apparently.
jacko lah said:
Not driven a Rover Car, since I owned a 85 METRO Turbo in the early 90's. and I now drive an 85 vauxhall so am not in a position to comment on product. My 65 year old auntie recently bought a CITY rover and says it's a FINE car. The 25 was too BIG apparently.
What is it with olds and small cars? Is there some sort of size perception shift as you hit pensionable age? My great uncle was a classic example. You'd think a Lt. Colonel, who was mentioned in despatches at Dunkirk, might be pompous and patriotic. At the very least, with a huge girth and those old man, high-waist strides (where do they buy them?!) practicality might dictate a roomier motor.
But not a bit of it, he happily motored his later years away in a series of Nissan Micras.
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