RE: Red Ken is Watching
RE: Red Ken is Watching
Friday 13th September 2002

Red Ken is Watching

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craigw

Original Poster:

12,248 posts

302 months

Friday 13th September 2002
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any idea how these cameras work? Like specs?

Its an absolutely bloody outrageous way of taxing London motorists, like it will make any difference to congestion and like they will scrap it if it doesn't work after spending the money installing the cameras.

The only difference will be that they will alter traffic light sequencing so it appears to be flowing more freely.

podie

46,646 posts

295 months

Friday 13th September 2002
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Sound slike a basic number plate recognition jobbie... so will work like SPECS, the ones at airport car parks and the dartford crossing etc etc...

mondeoman

11,430 posts

286 months

Friday 13th September 2002
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So just buy an old scrapper, register it to a false address, and put the plates on your motor...... Sorted!

plotloss

67,280 posts

290 months

Friday 13th September 2002
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I give it 3 months before someone tries to rip them down.

Matt.

madcop

6,649 posts

283 months

Friday 13th September 2002
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I give it 3 months before someone tries to rip them down.

Matt.



That long?

gnomesmith

2,458 posts

296 months

Friday 13th September 2002
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So just buy an old scrapper, register it to a false address, and put the plates on your motor...... Sorted!


But make sure it is the same make model and colour, Stingray is watching you.

It was reported on LBC yesterday that parking spaces just outside the congestion zone are available for £200-250 per month.....odd 31x5=£155, I suppose most people have to add on parking fees but with additional fares etc it must be a close run thing.

steve-p

1,448 posts

302 months

Friday 13th September 2002
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Has anyone noticed a similarity between New York mayor Rudolph Guiliani and own own cuddly Ken? No? Not surprising really, as there are none whatsoever. Rudolph Guiliani = great statesman, diplomat, decision maker. Ken Livingstone = pointless weaselly twat whose abilities would be stretched to the limit being in charge of the stationery cupboard at the local council office

Ticket

2 posts

301 months

Friday 13th September 2002
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When and how do you have to pay the £ 5? Like for us from the continent (Belgium). Can anyone explain. Do you have to pay the £ 80 fine on the spot?

grahambell

2,720 posts

295 months

Friday 13th September 2002
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Just read the piece about the car that runs on compressed air, then read this, and it occurred to me that if someone could invent a car that ran on hot air it would make perfect transport for politicians...

gnomesmith

2,458 posts

296 months

Friday 13th September 2002
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All motor cars run on hot air.

cuprabri

479 posts

286 months

Friday 13th September 2002
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Has anyone noticed a similarity between New York mayor Rudolph Guiliani and own own cuddly Ken? No? Not surprising really, as there are none whatsoever. Rudolph Guiliani = great statesman, diplomat, decision maker. Ken Livingstone = pointless weaselly twat whose abilities would be stretched to the limit being in charge of the stationery cupboard at the local council office



davidf

111 posts

282 months

Saturday 14th September 2002
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I can't wait for the congestion charges to start. I don't give a monkeys about paying £5 for roads that are clear of tax dodging, insurance avoiding twunts. I like to think of it as a first class ticket to London roads, driving in central London has always been a luxury. Parking at 20p for 6 minutes didn't do the trick, so it makes sense to up the ante.

cazzo

15,604 posts

287 months

Saturday 14th September 2002
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I hear that Red Ken, who doesn't drive, is now taking driving lessons! Why? we can only assume that it is some PC move to appear as more human.

This man is a tw*t and a half IMO.

shadowninja

79,132 posts

302 months

Saturday 14th September 2002
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you guys clearly haven't worked this out yet: politicians will do whatever they want. you don't really have a say. yes you can vote them out but it only means another prick will be voted in to abuse their privileges. so become a politician.

gnomesmith

2,458 posts

296 months

Saturday 14th September 2002
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I hear that Red Ken, who doesn't drive, is now taking driving lessons! Why? we can only assume that it is some PC move to appear as more human.

This man is a tw*t and a half IMO.



Nice but inaccurate story. Ken has a licence and part owns and uses a car when he needs to, he isn't taking driving lessons.

Just who's the Twat Cazzo?

cazzo

15,604 posts

287 months

Sunday 15th September 2002
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Nice but inaccurate story. Ken has a licence and part owns and uses a car when he needs to, he isn't taking driving lessons.




Gnomesmith,

Following is an article from the Guardian from 12/09/02, of course it could be wrong - if so my apoligies for posting rubbish.

The full article is at:

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/gla/story/0,9061,790419,00.html



At the age of 57, Ken Livingstone is to abandon his prejudice against cars and learn to drive. The mayor of London is reported to have booked driving lessons.

The news yesterday brought suspicions of machiavellian motives from both supporters and opponents of cars.

It might be an attempt to "share the pain" of motorists when the £5 daily charge for driving into central London starts in February, cynics suggested. Others pointed to fatherhood (his first child is due at the end of the year) and a need to be a chauffeur as reason for his change of heart.

Mr Livingstone, who once failed a driving test, has made much of his use of public transport, posing on the steps Routemaster buses in his 2000 election campaign. The image was marred when it emerged that the mayor's taxi bill topped £5,500 in the year to April, though his office yesterday pointed out that "taxis are public transport too".

His having driving lessons was "news to us", a spokeswoman said, although "he is co-owner of a car, used at weekends primarily".

Motorist critics will not forget Mr Livingstone's 1999 quip that "I hate cars. If I ever get any powers again, I'd ban the lot." The RAC said yesterday: "Hopefully he'll begin to appreciate the inconvenience caused by the rephasing of traffic lights, lack of coordination of road works, and some of the crazier traffic calming schemes he has introduced."

Transport 2000 wished him well. A spokesman for the pressure group, Steve Hounsham, said: "It is probably a canny political move on his part, though it may backfire."

He added: "Driving undoubtedly is a useful life skill, but we hope that, even when Mr Livingstone has his licence, he will continue to set a good example and use public transport when possible."

Others were less charitable. One Labour party critic of the independent mayor said: "He seems to be living his life backwards - first the baby, and now driving lessons. What next: retaking his A-levels?"



Of course I may still be a Tw*t but I posted what I believed to be a true article and I had done some research first.


BTW this article certainly confirms to me my original diagnosis of the man, unless of course you know differently..........






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GrahamG

1,091 posts

287 months

Monday 16th September 2002
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It is wrong!

vinny

101 posts

287 months

Monday 16th September 2002
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anyone know what ken drives, or the PM or like, copy the car and plate and keep driving in and out of the camera's

gnomesmith

2,458 posts

296 months

Monday 16th September 2002
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I was quoting Ken, probably the best source of information.

He also wrote to the Guardian letters page pointing out that the story was incorrect.

gnomesmith

2,458 posts

296 months

Monday 16th September 2002
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anyone know what ken drives, or the PM or like, copy the car and plate and keep driving in and out of the camera's



Or take off the plates and pretend you are the Queen.