RE: Invicta S1
Wednesday 20th November 2002
Invicta S1
A dozen firm sales and hundreds of people who want to try it out
Discussion
MEMSDesign said: Is it me, or does it look a bit like a sports car jelly mould?
At first glance I like the look of this car, at least from the picture as I haven't seen it for real. But then when you mentioned jelly mould I see where you're coming from.
The general proportions are great, nice low roof, long bonnet and XK8/Chimaera rear end. However the lower skirts look amateurish to me. A bit like a Nova's body kit that's been blended on. Looks like someone's draped a silk hanky over the car.
It's lacking something, and I think I can only put it down to styling. It's as if the skirts and arches have been flared just for appearance rather than function. The flaring appears too uniform over the length of the car.
The shape of the door also lacks styling. Straight lines and sharp angles don't work for me. I would expect more subtlety on a £70k car.
However, change the areas that I'm complaining about and then perhaps we have a Viper?!!
Still, I wouldn't kick it out of my garage
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Jarcy said:
MEMSDesign said: Is it me, or does it look a bit like a sports car jelly mould?
At first glance I like the look of this car, at least from the picture as I haven't seen it for real. But then when you mentioned jelly mould I see where you're coming from.
The general proportions are great, nice low roof, long bonnet and XK8/Chimaera rear end. However the lower skirts look amateurish to me. A bit like a Nova's body kit that's been blended on. Looks like someone's draped a silk hanky over the car.
It's lacking something, and I think I can only put it down to styling. It's as if the skirts and arches have been flared just for appearance rather than function. The flaring appears too uniform over the length of the car.
The shape of the door also lacks styling. Straight lines and sharp angles don't work for me. I would expect more subtlety on a £70k car.
However, change the areas that I'm complaining about and then perhaps we have a Viper?!!
Still, I wouldn't kick it out of my garage
Exactly what i have been thinking and the pic of the car at the top of this page seems to exagerate the effect , first pics i saw of it i thought it looked great and at this price i think i would want more
Err - a Lotus Elite is made of GRP - this is a single piece *carbon fibre* body - sounds very very expensive to me (remember Rowan Atkinson was reported to have written off his F1 hitting a mini - from what I remember the whole body just disintegrated.....)
gnomesmith said:Why? If it becomes damaged you only replace the damaged part using a part panel, not an unusual or difficult job and one which is familiar to most kit car owners, and Lotus Elites etc.
DanH said:
That one piece body shell is going to be an expensive liability
J
Here we go again! Be just like Jensen - the mags will hype the Invicta but it has less than 1% chance of succeeding, especially at that price. More lost deposits - how soon before it gets in Autocar listing of cars worth waiting for? Jensen was continually listed in Autocar for nearly 4 YEARS (yes, YEARS!!) and those prats who believed it and stumped up deposits - guess what? They lost their money...and the Jensen was 20 grand less!
You may be a bit unfair - and if cars don't turn up in Q1/Q2 next year it'll be clear there is something wrong.
Dandarez said: Here we go again! Be just like Jensen - the mags will hype the Invicta but it has less than 1% chance of succeeding, especially at that price. More lost deposits - how soon before it gets in Autocar listing of cars worth waiting for? Jensen was continually listed in Autocar for nearly 4 YEARS (yes, YEARS!!) and those prats who believed it and stumped up deposits - guess what? They lost their money...and the Jensen was 20 grand less!
However, why anyone would pay a deposit using anything other than a CC is a mystery to me - I certainly wouldn't.
Any deposit paid to a CC company is reclaimable in full if the goods don't arrive. However, don't use credit card cheques - they don't apply, and you'll need to ensure that the despoit is clearly marked as a desposit for proceeding to build, NOT for the whole car - as Section 75 of the CCA only applys to purchases between £100 and £30k.
Amazes me that no-one takes advice about a £70k purchase for a car and they just plow in - no-one would buy a £70k flat without getting a lawer involved
joust said:Err - a Lotus Elite is made of GRP - this is a single piece *carbon fibre* body - sounds very very expensive to me (remember Rowan Atkinson was reported to have written off his F1 hitting a mini - from what I remember the whole body just disintegrated.....)
gnomesmith said:Why? If it becomes damaged you only replace the damaged part using a part panel, not an unusual or difficult job and one which is familiar to most kit car owners, and Lotus Elites etc.
DanH said:
That one piece body shell is going to be an expensive liability
J
You can't make a body out of carbon fibre, you make it out of resin reinforced with carbon fibre woven mat,just like traditional grp. Repair is just the same as grp, cut out the damage, insert the new bits.
gnomesmith said:You can't make a body out of carbon fibre, you make it out of resin reinforced with carbon fibre woven mat,just like traditional grp. Repair is just the same as grp, cut out the damage, insert the new bits.
So if it's not "real" carbon fibre (baked in an autoclave) why bother with Carbon Fibre matting over normal Glass fibre - I wouldn't have thought it offered much (as surely the resin is the weightiest bit of it)
Sorry not that educated in this area
J
J
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