Friday 31st August 2001

Horseplay

Horses spotted over the M4

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[catdragon]

At last something is being done to make the roads safer for us horse riders. Well done to those who took the iniative to do these trials

[mel]

Yes very important every time I go out I am very concerned about the 260 horses I have with me !

[Saturn 5]

Horses dont have wheels and should be banned from the roads. Do they have to pay road tax, I think not. And they dont clean up their pooh like dog owners have to do.

[smeagol]

Why should horses be banned? Just because they don't pay car tax. So you would also ban bikes, pedestrians, dogs, cats, etc. What utter rubbish! Horse riders have rights as well. They should be allowed on the roads (in fact they are banned from large roads). Most horses are on country lanes in which drivers should be aware there could be a risk from slow moving obsticles (including tractors, cows, deer, sheep....). I don't ride horses but I respect their right to enjoy themselves as much as I enjoy driving my car. The draconian banning system only leads to more and more dictatorship. By using the same argument Saturn you could ban all cars that do over 70mph.

[ATG]

smeagol ... it's not that horses should be banned, it's just that they should be fitted with wheels and a catalytic converter to control their emissions.

[Cotty]

No I think he has the right idea ban cats I hate them

[nmilton]

Maybe if horses and their riders were a little more accountable, and considerate, in their usage of the public road then I'd be more tolerant. But most of them aren't !! As it is they can cause an accident, trample my car, crap all over the show and get away with abolutely everything. I'd be genuinely surprised if horses actually enjoy being on modern roads - why not use bridle paths or fields where they're not going to get spooked by a car coming round a hedge-lined corner or have their legs pounded on hard tarmac ? And as for bloody fox hunters..... The sooner they're banned from public roads the better the arrogant, narrow-minded retards. The only disappoint I had when I dropped the clutch and smoked the tyres out of a T-junction where I'd been held up for 5 minutes was that none of the muppets fell off !!!

[ATG]

Nick ... duh? Find your neutral space, man. All riders seem to want is to be given a wide berth and not too much noise. I've passed hundreds of them round Worcs and Herefordshire and never with any agro. I welcome the opportunity to look at these fine animals, particulary if they're in those tight trousers, and the horses aren't bad either. Mind you, I used to have a cavalry regiment ride past the flat at 6am Saturday morning (about 60 horses). That had its drawbacks and there was a lot of heavy duty dumping.

[mel]

To a motorcylist horse sh1t is almost as trecherous as derv !!!!!! Always more fun on the insurance form though

[nmilton]

Well I make no apologies for the fact that I still don't think they should be on the road. Times, and road conditions, change and from experience they're not sufficiently controllable creatures to warrant them being on the public roads, particularly when they are entirely unaccountable for their actions when involved in or causing an accident.

[smeagol]

nmilton, thats not true. Horse riders are accountable for their actions on a road. If you have been involved in an accident and the horse caused the accident then you can sue the owner of the horse. A friend of mine told me about this and you can buy insurance for such occasions. I do not approve of fox hunting at all. I believe that drag/blood hunts are the answer. If motor racing had used the same argument that fox hunters use then Burti would have been dead this weekend. However screaming past horses with tyres squealing is potentially very dangerous to the horse and your car. I travel down lots of country lanes and the vast majority of horse riders are polite and curteus. Which is a lot more than I can say about slow car drivers in their snail mobiles. I have never had a metro pull over to allow all the traffic queing to get past. Edited by smeagol on Tuesday 4th September 12:54

[flasher]

I would be quite happy if bloody Horse riders were banned. In the villages surrounding me they are hauled out every Sunday for the pure purpose of Showing off wealth and to piss off every motorist. Why not take the things into fields where they belong? Sure it's a bit irresponsible to wheelspin past them but I would make an exception for foxhunters, they are all w***kers anyway. The only good thing about them was this weekend when I was away with 5 other TVR owners, one unnamed person let his missus drive back from the pub in his Griffith and she managed to hit every piece of horse**** in Devon, covering his freshly polished car!!!! much to my drunken amusement and his anger!!!

[ATG]

You jus don' understaaand ooer country wees, you townies. Them vermin fox loike a bit of a run, before they get torn to pieces and smeared all over ooer faces. If you think a bit of horse dumpage is a motor cycling hazard, you should have tried Ledbury a few years back when one carefree local farmer drove through town with the muchspreader on. Poo caserole, very slippy.

[Neil Menzies]

quote:If you think a bit of horse dumpage is a motor cycling hazard...

A colleague of mine hit exactly this last week. Out on the bike, horse 'dumpage' on the road, back end out, high-side, and bike down, and body damage, both bike and person. As a dog owner, I clear up after my dog (who doesn't tend to leave traffic hazards lying about) - are horse owners liable for leaving horse dumpage on the roads? Neil

[Don]

Nothing like some good old fashioned horses**t now is there? Try it frozen in winter on a bike - very nasty. Don't mind dobbins myself. Most riders wave and say thank you as you pass gently by. Much nicer than the envious gits yelling obscenities. The best horse rider comment was "Swap You!". "Errm. No."

[campbell]

ATG said it very well, townies don't and will not understand the country life and when the move into the country side there think they become country people "NOT" , I don't think so and it makes me sick to see the lack of tolerance and respect these people have for the way of the quite country side life with your townie ideas I love hunting and the country side The way some of you lot are going on about it sounds like Tony (f**kn) Blair (t*s*er) an ante country man, a total city slicker How about a member of your family walking down a quite country road and I come blasting past only three feet away from them skaring the hell out of them , I think you woudn't like that and I wouldn't batter an eye lid for doing it either How dose that sound to you , sound more than acceptable to me

[mel]

Can you hunt haggis with horses ??

[nmilton]

I think we ought to be allowed to hunt horses, especially those with riders in red jackets.....

[nmilton]

Campbell, I actually live in the countryside and have done for over 20 years. As a result I think I have a vague idea what I'm talking about when it comes to horses on roads. Maybe it's just that the riders round my way are all complete tossers..... And as for you blasting down country roads scaring people, that's just down-right stupid - if you can't see what's round the next corner then slow down !! Inappropriate speed and all that !! Besides, I wasn't making any reference to wanting them off the road just so I could drive quickly down country lanes, simply that if you spook a horse then you run the risk of said animal trampling all over your car. Roads just don't strike me as a sensible place for a horse to be these days, that's all. I'm sure if you asked them they'd prefer to be galloping round a field rather than dawdling down a tarmac road

[Saturn 5]

quote: I love hunting and the country side How about we dress you up in a fox outfit, chase you for 30 miles and then rip you to shreads, thats not very nice either. I live in the country and have no desire to kill innocent animals. They were their long before you inbread toffs, so poo to you with knobs on.