RE: Country Roads Hierarchy
Monday 10th March 2003
Country Roads Hierarchy
CPRE and Tories seek new limits and red tape for country roads
Discussion
It sounds pretty reasonable to me.
These sound like the kind of speeds that most people would do in these situations anyway.
What bugs me is that they can't just leave it to peolpes' common sense to decide what speed is appropriate in a given situation.
Spend the money on initial driver training instead. If training tried to instill a level of imagination in drivers so they might visulise what could be around the next corner, that would slow alot of them down.
One of the first things my old Dad taught me was to imagine what would happen if I met myself coming the other way.
Mouse.
These sound like the kind of speeds that most people would do in these situations anyway.
What bugs me is that they can't just leave it to peolpes' common sense to decide what speed is appropriate in a given situation.
Spend the money on initial driver training instead. If training tried to instill a level of imagination in drivers so they might visulise what could be around the next corner, that would slow alot of them down.
One of the first things my old Dad taught me was to imagine what would happen if I met myself coming the other way.
Mouse.
Bollocks to the scum.
If the tw@ts in local and national governance would transfer even 10% of their oppressive and wholly unnecessary campaigns toward transportational stagnation into more productive spheres of socio-economic solution generation, like actually being able to get from A to B as fast as possible rather than pandering to the needs of an overly vocal minority of asexual ferret fanciers, then things might look a little rosier.
As it is, I can feel civil war looming.
Good God - speed limits on deserted country A and B? What a remarkable suggestion!
If the tw@ts in local and national governance would transfer even 10% of their oppressive and wholly unnecessary campaigns toward transportational stagnation into more productive spheres of socio-economic solution generation, like actually being able to get from A to B as fast as possible rather than pandering to the needs of an overly vocal minority of asexual ferret fanciers, then things might look a little rosier.
As it is, I can feel civil war looming.
Good God - speed limits on deserted country A and B? What a remarkable suggestion!
And just how much is it going to cost to manufacturer and print up all the new road signs this is going to take. And you can be sure it won't come out of current budgets, a new stealth tax will be implemented to cover it instead. Maybe increasing fines on speed cameras???
If any of the country lanes I know are the ones they'll be putting new speed limit signs on they won't last 5 minutes before Farmer Giles takes his combine down the lanes and wipes them all out.
MrsD does Farmer Jon have a Combine Harvester in his extensive garage???????
Edited to say "ooooooaaaarrr, get orf moi land!!!!"
>> Edited by FourWheelDrift on Monday 10th March 14:23
If any of the country lanes I know are the ones they'll be putting new speed limit signs on they won't last 5 minutes before Farmer Giles takes his combine down the lanes and wipes them all out.
MrsD does Farmer Jon have a Combine Harvester in his extensive garage???????
Edited to say "ooooooaaaarrr, get orf moi land!!!!"
>> Edited by FourWheelDrift on Monday 10th March 14:23
Stupid, sad blue-rinsed, w@nking vermin.
I knew the Tories had become a bunch of appeasing no marks but I hope this isn't a party wide position. Somebody please re-animate Alan Clark before this place goes right down the sh1tter.
I am feeeling sick to death of this seemingly constant attack on one's ability to occasionally lay down some flaming rubber, whilst driving utterly sensibly and within the limits 25-30% of the time.
I pay enough God damned tax; I merely wish to relieve a modicum of stress by the frickin' nailing of one's automotive sucker here and there - that's all - in the middle of bloody nowhere, maybe once or twice a week.
Is that so bad?
(And yes, I've just discovered the bold thingy: I am to PCs what Micra drivers are to B roads.)
I knew the Tories had become a bunch of appeasing no marks but I hope this isn't a party wide position. Somebody please re-animate Alan Clark before this place goes right down the sh1tter.
I am feeeling sick to death of this seemingly constant attack on one's ability to occasionally lay down some flaming rubber, whilst driving utterly sensibly and within the limits 25-30% of the time.
I pay enough God damned tax; I merely wish to relieve a modicum of stress by the frickin' nailing of one's automotive sucker here and there - that's all - in the middle of bloody nowhere, maybe once or twice a week.
Is that so bad?
(And yes, I've just discovered the bold thingy: I am to PCs what Micra drivers are to B roads.)
E X A C T L Y !!! 
dazren said: This has got to be the nail in the coffin for the tories. They can't possibly think there are votes in bashing the motorists even further.
IDS, there are over 30 million verging on being pissed off motorists, WAKE UP!!!
DAZ
Exactly, that's the depressing part. The tories are no alternative, nobody'll bote LibDem because the'yll put up taxes, so we're stuck with blair for the next decade.
IDS if you are listening, theres two almost guaranteed ways of regaining control of the Good Ship Soft Touch (aka UK plc).
1) Get the motorist on side, 30 million of us cant be wrong. This includes speed limit reform, abolition of scameras, increased standard of training and harsher penalties for stupid things that wind the vast majority of us up MLOC for example (how many £80's available from numpties there!?!?)
2) Legalise soft drugs, see how quickly you can get 6 million people who wouldnt be motivated otherwise to get down the voting box and stick an X in the box marked Conservative.
You're welcome.
Matt.
1) Get the motorist on side, 30 million of us cant be wrong. This includes speed limit reform, abolition of scameras, increased standard of training and harsher penalties for stupid things that wind the vast majority of us up MLOC for example (how many £80's available from numpties there!?!?)
2) Legalise soft drugs, see how quickly you can get 6 million people who wouldnt be motivated otherwise to get down the voting box and stick an X in the box marked Conservative.
You're welcome.
Matt.
plotloss said: IDS if you are listening, theres two almost guaranteed ways of regaining control of the Good Ship Soft Touch (aka UK plc).
1) Get the motorist on side, 30 million of us cant be wrong. This includes speed limit reform, abolition of scameras, increased standard of training and harsher penalties for stupid things that wind the vast majority of us up MLOC for example (how many £80's available from numpties there!?!?)
2) Legalise soft drugs, see how quickly you can get 6 million people who wouldnt be motivated otherwise to get down the voting box and stick an X in the box marked Conservative.
You're welcome.
Matt.
Penalties for people who don't indicate at roundabouts would get my vote!
If Blair goes to war I doubt he'll be there for much longer. The problem with all politics nowadays is that it seems to be not about pleasing the majority of the people most (if not all) of the time, but about (a) keeping overly-vocal itty-bitty minorities happy at the expense of silent majorities and (b) parties trying to 'out-bureaucratise' each other in order to leave a potentially disastrous 'lasting influence'. Thatcher managed it, Blair's managing it, except where you could say that Thatcher took away the 'safety net', Blair's using it to tie everyone down. All Blair needs now is an equivalent to the Poll Tax - the war could do it - where the people unearth everything they don't like about the government's control-freakery and pile it at him in protest after protest. We may not lose Labour, but Blair could be forced into resignation and, once weakened, they could be ordered to 'back down' on their social policies. Local councils are small do-gooders societies who live in a world where everyone goes to work on micro-scooters, buys the Big Issue at least once a week, goes on holiday on the bus and donates half their pensions to charity; and are therefore an easily-ignored bane on everybody's life. But once Big Tony and the New Thought Police are weakened, they'll realise their limitations too. We put them there, they are not there to keep us down.
Sorry, but if you legalised soft drugs (ie not just cannabis), the crime rate would rocket as people stole more to pay for more readily-available drugs. Also, there would be more people off their heads ready to steal your car or glass you outside the bar. Legalising the drugs does not take away the money/addiction issue! Think of your new insurance premiums for your two/four wheeled prides and joys when all the local spoilt brats older brothers got them hooked on something he could buy at the corner shop - I don't want to think about it.
FourWheelDrift said: MrsD does Farmer Jon have a Combine Harvester in his extensive garage???????
Edited to say "ooooooaaaarrr, get orf moi land!!!!"
>> Edited by FourWheelDrift on Monday 10th March 14:23
No-but the contractor employed by the company that manages the land gets mightily pi$$ed off with having people's horns sounded at him. He has to use country roads. You don't.
I you read the legislation
you'll notice that not a lot will actually be altered in terms of 'playground' roads. There are some 100 miles of green lanes (some of which we actively encourage 4x4 and trailbike users to utilise), footpaths (which are maintained above legal requirements) on our land and some beautiful, unrestricted roads run through it. Get of my land is not an attitude you will ever encounter from my husband or anyone who works for him - unless you abuse your right to be there.
mrsd said:Get of my land is not an attitude you will ever encounter from my husband or anyone who works for him - unless you abuse your right to be there.
Well said, but my comments was in general jest and not directed in your direction and were spoken in a good old Somerset accent.
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