How Late Is this Cerbera?
How Late Is this Cerbera?
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TVRnutcase

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260 months

Thursday 24th September
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I am looking to narrow down the exact production sequence and history of my Cerbera.- I know it had to be near the end of the production run - the question is how late?

The car was purchased brand new in Belfast in September 2004. It was originally registered in Belfast, Northern Ireland as YCZ 3957 - It then came back to the UK under reg R333MPH

The factory VIN is SDLCA11A74B001181.Given the late September 2004 registration date and the sequential chassis number ending in 1181, I am trying to establish exactly how close this car was to the absolute end of the factory Cerberas - I am guessing - it has to be last ten - but I am just seeing if I can narrow this down further.

Does anyone have access to the final registry archives to see where chassis 1181 sits numerically in the final run? Or even able to provide a more educated answer than my guessing.

Any insights from the local historians or registrars here would be greatly appreciated!

Lefty

21,359 posts

232 months

Thursday 24th September
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interesting, what's the date on the chassis?

The Three D Mucketeer

7,450 posts

257 months

Thursday 24th September
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The last 4 digits of the Chassis/ VIN (The Build Number) is allocated when the car is ordered, so the date it went into/completed build will be even later. TVR would have been creating a fair number in VINs in 2004 with the release of SAGs and Tuscan 2s so the 181 st car of 2004 was probably quite early in the year. I ordered mine in Jan'06 and it was the 61st smile .
There should be an engine number on it (I assume Speed Six) on the water pump (IIRC).. which gives you the date the engine was built ... also the window screen washer motor used to have a dated label which may also be a clue.

pmessling

2,321 posts

233 months

Thursday 24th September
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My 2004 4.5 cerb was registered march 04

9 produced in 2004 according to information ive seen.

pmessling

2,321 posts

233 months

Thursday 24th September
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Chassis ending 1377

TVRnutcase

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178 posts

260 months

Friday 25th September
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The engine number was 0426P4203841 - Originally a 4.2 - but upgraded to a 4.7 by Str8six a few years ago.

Interesting 1377 was registered March 2004 and 1181 was registered September 2004.

carguy45

1,203 posts

194 months

Friday 25th September
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Belfast here, knew a few local Cerberas back in the day but can't remember that reg. What colour was it?

The Three D Mucketeer

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257 months

Friday 25th September
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TVRnutcase said:
The engine number was 0426P4203841 - Originally a 4.2 - but upgraded to a 4.7 by Str8six a few years ago.

Interesting 1377 was registered March 2004 and 1181 was registered September 2004.
Cars could sit in dealers for months and years ... I know some Tuscans built in 2005 but not registered till 2007.
Often depends if it was built off a customer spec or a dealers spec as a dem.

TVRnutcase

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260 months

Friday 25th September
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carguy45 said:
Belfast here, knew a few local Cerberas back in the day but can't remember that reg. What colour was it?
Silver - Black interior if i recall - but I retrimmed to a black-portland grey combination

carguy45

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194 months

Friday 25th September
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TVRnutcase said:
Silver - Black interior if i recall - but I retrimmed to a black-portland grey combination
A friend of mine had this one, bought 2004 and he lives on outskirts of Belfast. He said it came up as as silver in car tax checks. However he has no photos with the original reg plate on and can't remember it for the life of him, he has personal regs now on his cars so old ones are long forgotten. He also commented at the time it was one of the last off the production line.





Edited by carguy45 on Friday 25th September 12:36

SimonKD

1,387 posts

261 months

Sunday 27th September
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The Three D Mucketeer said:
TVRnutcase said:
The engine number was 0426P4203841 - Originally a 4.2 - but upgraded to a 4.7 by Str8six a few years ago.

Interesting 1377 was registered March 2004 and 1181 was registered September 2004.
Cars could sit in dealers for months and years ... I know some Tuscans built in 2005 but not registered till 2007.
Often depends if it was built off a customer spec or a dealers spec as a dem.
My 4.5 was registered in March 2003. My Chassis No. ends 001590. I have no idea when it was originally ordered.

Regards
Simon

TVR-MADS

1,461 posts

314 months

Sunday 27th September
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TVRnutcase said:
The engine number was 0426P4203841 - Originally a 4.2 - but upgraded to a 4.7 by Str8six a few years ago.

Interesting 1377 was registered March 2004 and 1181 was registered September 2004.
Engine was made week 26 in 2004.
Is 1377 actually 3B001377, while 1181 is 4B001181?

Byker28i

91,802 posts

247 months

Tuesday
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The Three D Mucketeer said:
The last 4 digits of the Chassis/ VIN (The Build Number) is allocated when the car is ordered, so the date it went into/completed build will be even later.
Erm - my 1997 VIN ends with 1547, engine number 474
With the Vin number, taking into the year code, you know 1000 off the last 4 digits to know the sequential build number for the Year, so mine was the 547th built in 1997


For anyone else wanting to decipher their VIN
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 29th September 13:52

TVRnutcase

Original Poster:

178 posts

260 months

Wednesday
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carguy45 said:
A friend of mine had this one, bought 2004 and he lives on outskirts of Belfast. He said it came up as as silver in car tax checks. However he has no photos with the original reg plate on and can't remember it for the life of him, he has personal regs now on his cars so old ones are long forgotten. He also commented at the time it was one of the last off the production line.





Edited by carguy45 on Friday 25th September 12:36
If your friend was Garth - then - yes - that is now mine - you can let him know it is safe here in New Zealand with a couple of other TVRs to talk to for compnay in the garage.

TVRnutcase

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178 posts

260 months

Wednesday
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TVR-MADS said:
Engine was made week 26 in 2004.
Is 1377 actually 3B001377, while 1181 is 4B001181?
Thank you - June 2004 -for a AJP8 would have to place this at the very end of the run of Cerberas - with only 9 registered that year. - I best continue the best of care for it.

carguy45

1,203 posts

194 months

Wednesday
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TVRnutcase said:
If your friend was Garth - then - yes - that is now mine - you can let him know it is safe here in New Zealand with a couple of other TVRs to talk to for compnay in the garage.
Small world!

I believe Garth (based in Hillsborough, about 12 miles from Belfast) was the first owner from new, then he sold the car to my friend who lives on the edge of Belfast. He had it for a little while then sold it on again. He's a TVR nut though so (many years later) now has another Cerbera in the garage, as well as a Tuscan and Sagaris.

Glad to hear it's still going strong. Whereabouts in New Zealand are you? Great country, I have family in the North Island near Whangaroa harbour