Head Unit Connections
Head Unit Connections
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Tripps

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5,814 posts

301 months

Monday 27th December 2004
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Thinking about a post-Christmas, pre-New Year treat for myself in the shape of a new Alpine (with the iPod link wotsit) head unit as I thought I might be able to just slip it in.

But after recalling the mess of the wiring inside my old S3 I thought I'd better check... Did TVR fit standard ISO connectors or is the standard-fit Pioneer unit wired in as only TVR could?

I could go outside and check I guess, but I'd prefer to open a bottle as its a bit nippy outside!

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Monday 27th December 2004
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I thinnk they have a 'Crossover' box which causes all sorts of problems when you wire in a new Stereo. I am sore some people here will put the record straight.

I think you can just swap it but you will not get the best out of it until you remove the TVR magic box.

Hope tha doesnt sound too b@llox!

redleicester

6,869 posts

274 months

Monday 27th December 2004
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Well this is a right game Tripps.... or it's really really easy - depends on what day of the week your car was built!

Yours is a later car, so you've probably got speakers in the lower part of the doors, and in the rear. Possibly you also have little tweeters higher up in the doors.... but then again maybe not....

All head units went to standard ISO connectors in about 2000/2001, but Alpine have their own system.... (typical!) Having said that, even Halfrauds stock little adaptors for a few pounds.

If you have the tweeters in the doors, and only single cone speakers in the back then yes, there will be a TVR "crossover". I use the term in it's loosest possible form! It's an RS components box, stuffed with.. erm.... RS components. Relevant capacitors and so on for each side, to make sure the tweeters get high frequencies, and the rears most of the mid - then the doors will drive full range. As I say, it depends on your particular car.

You may wish to replace this box, as he higher end Alpine units have fully configurable outputs, so you can send what frequencies you want wherever you want, but this will of course demand extra amping and so on if you really want to get into silly territory.

So he short-short answer, like most things in TVRland is Yes. And No.

serby

124 posts

270 months

Monday 27th December 2004
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Tripps said:
Did TVR fit standard ISO connectors or is the standard-fit Pioneer unit wired in as only TVR could?



Believe it or not Tripps the 21st Century has hit Blackpool,so it should be a 2 minute swap job!!

Tripps

Original Poster:

5,814 posts

301 months

Monday 27th December 2004
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I guess some investigation work is required then:

What release mechanism is there on the head units, or do you just "ease" them out

serby

124 posts

270 months

Monday 27th December 2004
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Have you not got any release keys? will have a look to see if i have some spare! i'll have them in the car tommorrow if i have!,Beaulieu?

Tripps

Original Poster:

5,814 posts

301 months

Monday 27th December 2004
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serby said:
Have you not got any release keys? will have a look to see if i have some spare! i'll have them in the car tommorrow if i have!,Beaulieu?
I've a set somewhere, not sure if they are standard or the right ones though...

See you tomorrow though

trooperiziz

9,457 posts

281 months

Monday 27th December 2004
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serby said:



Believe it or not Tripps the 21st Century has hit Blackpool,so it should be a 2 minute swap job!!


The connector may be standard, but don't bet on any of the wires being the right colour or in the right holes

serby

124 posts

270 months

Monday 27th December 2004
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trooperiziz said:

The connector may be standard, but don't bet on any of the wires being the right colour or in the right holes


RED TO RED,GREEN TO GREEN,BLUE TO BITS!!

if in doubt please get a quailified electrician to tell you there is no logic to the colour coded wires as that was the only colour wire available at that time and probably the cheapest

Tripps

Original Poster:

5,814 posts

301 months

Tuesday 28th December 2004
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Think I'll investigate when I have a little more time, as I've an amp and speakers to fit at some point anyway, so I might just be lazy and get the pros to do it.

Tripps

Original Poster:

5,814 posts

301 months

Wednesday 29th December 2004
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While sitting around yesterday had a look around and I have four speakers, two mid-range (16cm I think) on the lower doors and similar on the rear B pillars, all are Pioneer so as I'd suspected hadn't been changed.

Hopefully the head unit has the standard connections then, in which case it'll be east to change

serby - Had to shoot off yesterday but on inspection I do have the right release watsits, so will pull out the head unit sometime to see what a mess/good job TVR did when the car was made

serby

124 posts

270 months

Wednesday 29th December 2004
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Tripps said:

serby - Had to shoot off yesterday but on inspection I do have the right release watsits, so will pull out the head unit sometime to see what a mess/good job TVR did when the car was made


No worries...I also have a Fire extinguisher if you need it?? Good luck and a happy new year!!

alinton

965 posts

265 months

Thursday 30th December 2004
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I changed all speakers in mine today.

Took all the awful Pioneers out - there were 2 10cm units in the back and a speaker in each door, of the type with the tweeter mounted concentrically to the bass cone.

Dreadful sound.

I put a set of Focals in - they are truly marvellous speakers. A pair of full-range 10cms in the back - and believe it or not, these on their own are great - there is even some good bass, somehow!

In the doors I put a 165mm bass unit where the others were, and fitted a tweeter in each door just above the release button. The Focal crossovers fit in a handy cavity in the door panels.

Blimey they sound good! Even without an external amp (which I may fit later) and without a sub-bass unit, its fantastic sound. You can't beat good speakers; Focals are expensive but well worth it.

Any by the way, my car has an ISO connector for the radio!

crazycats

700 posts

278 months

Thursday 30th December 2004
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alinton said:
I put a set of Focals in

Great choice of speaker.......if you don't mind, what did they cost?

E-mail me if you'd prefer

alinton

965 posts

265 months

Thursday 30th December 2004
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The Focals were:

1 x 100-CA = £79.99 inc VAT
1 x 165-Vslim = £251.99 inc VAT

The 100CAs are the 10cm full-range, the 165 Vslim are the 165mm component system.

I got the slim ones because I was worried about clearance behind the panel, the standard Focals are quite deep and the magnets are large. Got caught by that in previous car, a Prelude.

Email me direct if you want to know where I got them!

Corin Denton

8,762 posts

297 months

Thursday 30th December 2004
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Tripps, I've just bought te Alpine set-up you speak of, should just be plug and play, Alpine do use a different plug system but an adaptor is included with the head unit.