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Having owned a 4.2 Cerb previously I am now considering returning to try a 4.5,thing is I have seen quite a few sp6 cerbs advertised and wondered do they suffer the same fate as the Tuscan with regard engine problems?. I've now got to consider dropping my 85 911 Turbo against one could anyone reccomend a dealer out there who deals with both marques.
Steve
Steve
Being as TVR is the antithesis of everything Porsche, I don't think there are any dealers with both - though there may be an indie or two.
The whole Sp6 issue is a giant can of worms, prepare to duck as all the proponents of the case air their views (Wait for Ocean1 to come along....)
The Sp6 Cerb is a very different beast to a 4.2 V8, let alone a 4.5 - about the same pace as a 4.2, but needs more revs to do it - however the trade off is much smoother running right through the rev range. Also the straight 6 makes a very different sound to the bent 8, and that's a matter of taste - once again it's different, and just because it's different doesn't make it bad. Can I say "different" once more, just to put me firmly astride the fence as regards comparisons of Sp6 vs AJPV8?!
The 4.5 however is a different creature - a quick one is an absolute beast, particularly with the Red Rose conversion, though there are many around that are little different from a well sorted 4.2, albeit with better pub bragging rights.
So on to the contentious bit - yes, the Sp6 engines have their problems. Usually serious. Now the factory no longer offers "good-will" rebuilds, at some point or other you're liable to come up against a rather painful bill. Thankfully several indies are now getting in on the act and doing their own rebuilds for rather less money. There used to be a school of thought saying if you bought a rebuilt one then you'd be okay - however quite a few chaps here have had one rebuild after another. There's nothing to say it will or won't happen to you - it's the luck of the draw.
So really, look at off-setting all the costs - MPG is around the same, as is insurance. 4.2s are plentiful and I paid £16k for my 96 car last year, but I could have had a 2000 Sp6 for £5k less...... which would have paid for the inevitable rebuild....
You pays your money, you takes your choice. Frankly, I'd buy the one in the condition I required for the money I was willing to spend, and take the rough with the smooth.
Just my 10%, hope that helps.
The whole Sp6 issue is a giant can of worms, prepare to duck as all the proponents of the case air their views (Wait for Ocean1 to come along....)
The Sp6 Cerb is a very different beast to a 4.2 V8, let alone a 4.5 - about the same pace as a 4.2, but needs more revs to do it - however the trade off is much smoother running right through the rev range. Also the straight 6 makes a very different sound to the bent 8, and that's a matter of taste - once again it's different, and just because it's different doesn't make it bad. Can I say "different" once more, just to put me firmly astride the fence as regards comparisons of Sp6 vs AJPV8?!
The 4.5 however is a different creature - a quick one is an absolute beast, particularly with the Red Rose conversion, though there are many around that are little different from a well sorted 4.2, albeit with better pub bragging rights.
So on to the contentious bit - yes, the Sp6 engines have their problems. Usually serious. Now the factory no longer offers "good-will" rebuilds, at some point or other you're liable to come up against a rather painful bill. Thankfully several indies are now getting in on the act and doing their own rebuilds for rather less money. There used to be a school of thought saying if you bought a rebuilt one then you'd be okay - however quite a few chaps here have had one rebuild after another. There's nothing to say it will or won't happen to you - it's the luck of the draw.
So really, look at off-setting all the costs - MPG is around the same, as is insurance. 4.2s are plentiful and I paid £16k for my 96 car last year, but I could have had a 2000 Sp6 for £5k less...... which would have paid for the inevitable rebuild....
You pays your money, you takes your choice. Frankly, I'd buy the one in the condition I required for the money I was willing to spend, and take the rough with the smooth.
Just my 10%, hope that helps.
[quote=s,one]Having owned a 4.2 Cerb previously I am now considering returning to try a 4.5,thing is I have seen quite a few sp6 cerbs advertised and wondered do they suffer the same fate as the Tuscan with regard engine problems?. I've now got to consider dropping my 85 911 Turbo against one could anyone reccomend a dealer out there who deals with both marques.
Steve[/quote]
give dream machines a try, they part ex on
interesting sports cars. they've got a 996
in the showroom at the moment. good people to
do business with.
Steve[/quote]
give dream machines a try, they part ex on
interesting sports cars. they've got a 996
in the showroom at the moment. good people to
do business with.
I think the best reason to go for a 4.5 (ie there really is sod all diff on the road between the 3 models - particularly the 4.2 and 4.5) is that you can do so much to it with the various chip/ecu mods. once this is done (and suspension) then you will have the pick of the cerb bunch.
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