tyre pressures
tyre pressures
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cossiemetro

Original Poster:

1,092 posts

269 months

Wednesday 9th August 2006
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anybody got the pressures i've got the 4.5 alloys 17's on my 4.2 cerbie
they are 255 on the back and 235's i think on the back

jensena

5,671 posts

259 months

Wednesday 9th August 2006
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22psi Front and 24psi rear for normal every day driving.
Sustained high speed or fully laden 25 front and 28 rear.

Mr.Cerbera

5,151 posts

259 months

Thursday 10th August 2006
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Now it's interesting you should say that Jensena coz I upped the pressures for an expected high-speed sesh recently and the rear was all over the place on long high-speed curves. I've got Toyos fitted and since returning to standard pressures again, she has returned to the solid, confidence-inspiring surefootedness she had before.

Edited by Mr.Cerbera on Thursday 10th August 01:24

flashheart

581 posts

271 months

Thursday 10th August 2006
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I run mine at 22F/24R and being extremely lazy I have never changed them, for high speed or fully laden as I don't do either that often. I know I should but can't be ar5ed.

cossiemetro

Original Poster:

1,092 posts

269 months

Thursday 10th August 2006
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cheers

thegreengoblet

1,040 posts

245 months

Thursday 10th August 2006
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Do the pressures change with 18" Alloys???
I have 18" Spiders with Toyo Proxies fitted.
What pressures should they be?

gbbird

5,197 posts

273 months

Thursday 10th August 2006
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i have mine 17" wheeels on 26psi all round

trooperiziz

9,457 posts

281 months

Thursday 10th August 2006
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gbbird said:
i have mine 17" wheeels on 26psi all round


What he said.

mad mark

2,345 posts

261 months

Thursday 10th August 2006
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thegreengoblet said:
Do the pressures change with 18" Alloys???
I have 18" Spiders with Toyo Proxies fitted.
What pressures should they be?

I was told by Barnet that on the 18" it should be 20 and 22 psi.

thegreengoblet

1,040 posts

245 months

Thursday 10th August 2006
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Thanks mad_mark.
Will check them tonight.

Captain Beaky

1,389 posts

313 months

Thursday 10th August 2006
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mad mark said:
thegreengoblet said:
Do the pressures change with 18" Alloys???
I have 18" Spiders with Toyo Proxies fitted.
What pressures should they be?

I was told by Barnet that on the 18" it should be 20 and 22 psi.


I run 26 all round on mine. (4.5, 18" spiders, nitrons, Toyos)

jensena

5,671 posts

259 months

Thursday 10th August 2006
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I was just quoting from the manual - unfortunately I live in England where it's impossible to do any 'Sustained High speed driving'

Also I believe the tyre and wheel size is irrelevant to the pressure - i.e a TVR Cerbera needs 22/24 psi regardless of the size of the tyres. If you think about it no matter size tyre you have , 22psi is 22 psi.

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Thursday 10th August 2006
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Yes and no.

Tyres with a larger footprint e.g. those that are running wider wheels etc technically should be running a lower pressure to keep the pressure distribution the same.

However, larger footprint tends to go with larger diameter wheels and also lower profile tyres. Which really need a little bit more pressure to prevent side wall deflection and the following wheel damage.

If I knew I was going to be on smooth roads thoughpout my drive I'd run approx 24 psi in mine. I tend to keep them up at 28psi at the mo though as the wheels would take a beating otherwise.

Protechs, 4.5, 255/35-19 fronts and 275/35-19 rears.

Not bouncy on that set up either.

morebeanz

3,283 posts

265 months

Thursday 10th August 2006
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Fernhursts recommended 24 all round for my 18" spiders. I have experimented a bit, and I think softer would be good, but if you go too soft there's a risk of hitting the wheel when "pot-holing"! Unintentionally of course...

jensena

5,671 posts

259 months

Thursday 10th August 2006
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Well I think your wrong Ridds I'm still sticking with my theory that 22psi=22psi no matter what size tyre, because the size is irrelevant, 1 pound per square inch is 1 pound per square inch. Tyre pressures are determined by the weight of the car, no matter how big a tyre you fit, you still need it to be 22psi ! The colume of air you put into a bigger tyre will increase, but the pressure per square inch always needs to be the same.

If you look at the TVR recomeneded pressures for the 4.2, with 16" wheels and 225/45 front and 245/45 rear, they are exactly the same presuures as those recomended for the 17" wheels of the 4.5.

And guess what? The Speed 6 with 225/50x16 front and rear, also have EXACTLY the same pressures.

So for all 3 cars, all with totally different tyre sizes, the pressures are all the same, 22psi front and 24 psi rear.

Oh this is fun !

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Thursday 10th August 2006
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True, kinda right and kinda wrong. :lol

Pressure should never really be lower than stated in the handbook although I do stand by the upping the pressure to protect the sidewall etc.

Pressure should be calcualted from vehicle weight and load index of the tyre compared to that of the tyres previously fitted.

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Thursday 10th August 2006
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Really I'd say 22 Fr 24 Rr for the 16's same for the 17's and a touch more for the 18's say 24 Fr and 26 Rr. It's important to maintian the differential front to rear.

mad mark

2,345 posts

261 months

Thursday 10th August 2006
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I would have thought (and I do no nothing on the subject) that to have a lower pressure on a higher profile tyre will mean the sidewall will 'flex' abit more therefore giving a very wallowey ride.

And although true about the possibility of damaging the wheels with a lower profile tyre with low pressure, if your going to hit a pothole that big, then your either travelling too fast or not watching the road surface.

Cyclone1

2,614 posts

275 months

Friday 11th August 2006
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Interesting.......

I used to run 26psi fronts and 28 psi rear, but now.....

I run 26psi front and 24psi rear on 18" Spiders on Protechs.

At the Pod I run 45psi front and 15psi rear

I am currently running Falken FK452 225/35/18 front (better side wall fit than the Toyos) and Bridgestone S02 255/35/18 on the rear.

I doubt it's really that critical, but more of a personal choice as to what feels right for you.

Jules.

Mr.Cerbera

5,151 posts

259 months

Tuesday 15th August 2006
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Hmmmm, and to throw another stick on the fire.....
Given the physics of car mass over tyre area as a primary factor, aren't manufacturers construction types more relevant to what pressures we should run if we should change from standard fittings. I certainly remember that when I used to change tyres on my bikes, I would always consult Sharples' Tyres oop North for which pressures to use and they almost invariably gave different pressures depending on the make/model of tyre.

Edited by Mr.Cerbera on Wednesday 16th August 03:30