Reliability v's Driving Style
Discussion
After Grahams post about buying a cerbera and all the reliability issues folks go on about I wonder if we're not comparing apples with apples.
Question: If someone buys a Cerbera what do they want to use it for??
U'll get the standard answers of looks, indivduality, noise etc bu the bottom line is it's fast as f@#k!!!
So where does that lead us. We'll the majority of punters that drive them aren't going to drive at 30mph are they and dare I say it a great many of them find their way onto the tracks around Britain. So with the avearge style of driving in the Cerbera ie pushing the engine, gearbox and clutch to near it's limits is it any wonder things can go wrong?????
Is then the reverse almost true:
No track days vs driving like your gran going to cause alot less mechanical reliability issues?
I wonder what would happen to a VW Golf if it had the same lifestyle as the cerb?
hmmmm? thoughts?
Jamster
Question: If someone buys a Cerbera what do they want to use it for??
U'll get the standard answers of looks, indivduality, noise etc bu the bottom line is it's fast as f@#k!!!
So where does that lead us. We'll the majority of punters that drive them aren't going to drive at 30mph are they and dare I say it a great many of them find their way onto the tracks around Britain. So with the avearge style of driving in the Cerbera ie pushing the engine, gearbox and clutch to near it's limits is it any wonder things can go wrong?????
Is then the reverse almost true:
No track days vs driving like your gran going to cause alot less mechanical reliability issues?
I wonder what would happen to a VW Golf if it had the same lifestyle as the cerb?
hmmmm? thoughts?
Jamster
jamster said:
I wonder what would happen to a VW Golf if it had the same lifestyle as the cerb?
hmmmm? thoughts?
Jamster
A) It would roll over and over and....
b) It would have been stolen and it's life span is now
in seconds.
c) It would have to be towed by a Cerbera
Go create some weather...
It's a road legal Concorde!
Graham
TCR The Cerbera Register
www.TVR-Cerbera.com
Well, we've got a Cerb & a Golf GTi (& a Polo), and the Cerb gets driven harder, but there just isn't the space on the roads to nail the Cerb for 15 miles, like you can with the other 2 cars. (can you image if there was though ! 
)
And no, I don't drive the Cerb like a girl, but it doesn't matter how hard you try to drive it, you run out of space too fast on the road, so have to drive it slowely/sensibly quite a lot of the time ! Well, except when you get up at 04:00 on a Sunday to go for a drive !
) And no, I don't drive the Cerb like a girl, but it doesn't matter how hard you try to drive it, you run out of space too fast on the road, so have to drive it slowely/sensibly quite a lot of the time ! Well, except when you get up at 04:00 on a Sunday to go for a drive !
Both of my scoobies have been mercylessly hammered, but neither have any form of reliability problems.
The worst problem has been a failed damper on the P1 which was replaced FOC under warranty. Oh, and the boot opener went wrong on my first scooby.
So yes, you can have performance and reliability. Ask 911 drivers.
The worst problem has been a failed damper on the P1 which was replaced FOC under warranty. Oh, and the boot opener went wrong on my first scooby.
So yes, you can have performance and reliability. Ask 911 drivers.
Scoopies are not bomb proof either. Sent plenty of them on road sides with bonnets up in the air looking terminal. The couple that have come out sprinting have had some interesting brake failures amongst other things...
Driving style and technique makes a big big difference. Some people can be really hard on a car and yet not drive any quicker than someone else who is smooth and less aggressive. Brakes and bits then tend to last longer because of the better mechanical sympathy.
Driving style and technique makes a big big difference. Some people can be really hard on a car and yet not drive any quicker than someone else who is smooth and less aggressive. Brakes and bits then tend to last longer because of the better mechanical sympathy.
Plotloss said:
Its bad build quality, thrashing from cold and other associated user errors that let them down the most...
IMHO this is spot on.
I reckon if you bought a new cerbie, had it stripped and rebuilt properly with a load of mods by Joolz or whoever (throttle link rod etc.), and then put decent quality electrical connectors in, waterproofed the alternator fuse, heat shielded the starter etc., then you would have a very reliable car.
It seems to me that it is generally the ancilliaries that let these cars down. That or easy to rectify problems (5th gear, brake discs warping), not cheap though
. If these were sorted then a lot of the 'niggles' would be gone and the heartache a lot of people suffer would be vastly reduced. Most of the scoobies with bonnets open by the roadside are mostly examples of 'when tuned cars go bad'. Standard ones, not that there are many, are very reliable.
Just my 2p, not meaning to criticise TVR too much.
GCerbera said:
Just my 2p, not meaning to criticise TVR too much.
How's the Skyline going Rob?
Coming back to TVR in 2004??
Skyline? Slowly, it needs to be run in
How's your beastie? Hope all is well.
I will be back. I miss the cerb, particularly the sensation of speed. If mine had been a bad one it would be easier to stay away
but it never really went wrong (the windscreen wipers packed up just before I sold it). The main reason for the post above is that mine was practically faultless and as reliable as any other production car. This made it a joy to own once I was used to it. I just feel that a lot of owners suffer needlessly and through no fault of their own (although some cars are neglected by their previous owners/garages which doesn't help).
ro_butler said:
How's your beastie? Hope all is well.
I will be back. I miss the cerb, particularly the sensation
of speed.
Sorry to hear the Skyline's not up to full speed yet.
My Cerb is going very well thanks now the 'inflicted'
faults have been sorted, had a wonderful 200 mile run today.
I actually wondered if you might have been down at
MPH'03 looking for a new car.
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