Nitron advice required please

[Buster4.2]

Reviewed archive but no definitive answers found.

Looking to improve handling and response of my '97 Cerbera. Having owned Elises in the past, one of the most frustrating things for me is the poor roadholding of my std car which I don't find very confidence inspiring.

I'm unlikely to use it on track , but want it to be a little more 'chuckable' and not enter corners gripping the seat with my buttocks, for fear of being spat off the road backwards!!! I want to retain std ride height as this is already a problem with the camber of my drive/sleeping policeman.

Are Nitrons the best option or overkill for road use?

What spring poundage would you recommend?

[kojak69]

Simon.
Give Joolz a ring at Joospeed. He's the guy in the know. He'll answer your questions, and do a good job for you if you decide to bring it to him.

[HarryW]

I think your best bet would be to speak to Joolz at Joospeed he has done a lot of work with Nitron getting the set up right for the Cerb and other Tivs. I'm sure if you tell him your exact requirements he can get a set off the shelf or get them bespoke to suit. By all accounts you will be suprised at the transformation.

Harry

[satman]

I am led to believe Joospeed are the people to answer this question....would very much like to know an answer myself...



looks like 3 of us on the same frequency!!!

>> Edited by satman on Friday 30th January 13:24

[kojak69]

We were all eager to give that answer weren't we.

[HarryW]

kojak69 said:

We were all eager to give that answer weren't we.

What were the odds on three posts giving the same answer all at 13:23

H

[satman]

Great minds think alike??

[davidd]

Nitrons on the road (well on a car on the road, the car in question being a cerbera) = Fantastic

The car is so much more surefooted than it was, much more stable, better round the bends and less tramlining (although that might be placebo effect).

D.

[Buster4.2]

Followed your advice guys and just rang Joospeed - what a helpful and knowledgeable chap! Lots of helpful info and didn't rush me at all - really wanted to understand what I wanted in the car's setup.

Has recommended that I disconnect rear anti-roll bar, have a custom pair of FRONT Nitrons (+ 420ish lb springs) made and possibly modify the mounting of the front anti-roll bar. This will enable the front to turn-in better and generate more grip and stability (have I got this right Joolz??).

Particularly valuable advice for me which will enable the improvements I want within my budget, with the option of doing the rear at a later date if necessary.

I know if I had gone for AVO's I would have always wondered what it really would have been like with the Nitrons.

Going to mull it over during the weekend and place order next week.

Thanks for the advice guys.

[joospeed]

LOL thanks guys!!
Yup ..final spec is to keep the front end roll under control, leave the rear as is but without the rear anti roll bar, use trong front springs to reduce the unloading of the rear end inner wheel and build dmpers to give more grip on turn in, whilst keeping the through-corner stability of the stiff springs.
The std nitron kit is designed for safe slight corner-entry understeer but that's not going to help you ..

[jonnie5]

joospeed said:

LOL thanks guys!! Yup ..final spec is to keep the front end roll under control, leave the rear as is but without the rear anti roll bar, use trong front springs to reduce the unloading of the rear end inner wheel and build dmpers to give more grip on turn in, whilst keeping the through-corner stability of the stiff springs. The std nitron kit is designed for safe slight corner-entry understeer but that's not going to help you ..

Joolz, do you have a ball park cost for this? I would like start to drop a subtle hint at home prior to my birthday!

Mail me offline if you prefer

[Julian64]

jonnie5 said:

joospeed said: LOL thanks guys!! Yup ..final spec is to keep the front end roll under control, leave the rear as is but without the rear anti roll bar, use trong front springs to reduce the unloading of the rear end inner wheel and build dmpers to give more grip on turn in, whilst keeping the through-corner stability of the stiff springs. The std nitron kit is designed for safe slight corner-entry understeer but that's not going to help you .. Joolz, do you have a ball park cost for this? I would like start to drop a subtle hint at home prior to my birthday! Mail me offline if you prefer

no mail him online, we all need to know

[joospeed]

not ball park, actual! .. 850 plus vat. for the kit.

[Buster4.2]

.....or £425 + VAT if you only have the fronts like me.

[satman]

Do these prices include fitting and setup or diy?

[joospeed]

er. not quite that all depends on how badly corroded your suspension bolts are and how far out your geometry is ..

[Buster4.2]

Prices are for DIY, as I am quite a way from Joospeed.

Joolz has said the rear anti-roll bar is quite easy to remove - 4 bolts.

As I am keeping the std ride height fitting of the fronts should be reasonably straight forward. A friend owns a garage so I'm lucky in that I have access to a ramp if I need it.

[satman]

So...ball park...(i know you dont like ball park)...how much on top of the 850+the blood do you think the set up is likely to be and how long does it generally take to do?

[tweety]

Call me stupid .... but what effect does removing the rear anti-rollbar have. So far I have found the car very twitchy, even more so than a Griff, and have just had the alignment, castor/camber/toe-in etc set up which has made it a bit better. Will removing the rear arb help or only if coupled with damper/spring changes?

Cheers, Al.

[joospeed]

ok, very ball park figure .. 4-5 hours plus abit of heat and/or big hammer comes to maybe 250 pounds?