Alpine A110S manual gearbox conversion?
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Hello everyone,
As most of you know, the new Alpine A110 is sold only with an automatic gearbox.
I was wondering if any of you know of any Alpine specialist / tuner / rally engineering firm in Europe that would be capable of replacing the original automatic gearbox with a manual one. I'm sure the sequential conversion is much easier, but that's not what I'm interested in.
Any ideas?
Thanks
As most of you know, the new Alpine A110 is sold only with an automatic gearbox.
I was wondering if any of you know of any Alpine specialist / tuner / rally engineering firm in Europe that would be capable of replacing the original automatic gearbox with a manual one. I'm sure the sequential conversion is much easier, but that's not what I'm interested in.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Europe is a big place....maybe be a bit more specific as to your location ?
And it's an unusual request that's for sure, with lots of custom parts being needed.....which would be very very expensive.
Litchfield offer various tuning options, and have a good background so could likely do it.
https://www.litchfieldmotors.com/alpine/a110/
And it's an unusual request that's for sure, with lots of custom parts being needed.....which would be very very expensive.
Litchfield offer various tuning options, and have a good background so could likely do it.
https://www.litchfieldmotors.com/alpine/a110/
I imagine it's the m5p engine used in the Mégane RS, so presumably the 6 speed manual could be mated to it? Making it physically fit could be tricky, but I presume it could be done if the 7 speed box fits. I suppose the ECU from the Mégane could be used if the Alpine one won't talk to the box etc.
Getting a decent gearshift is going to be really hard!
If you want to, then be prepared to cast or CNC from solid a new gearbox casing with the shift mech coming out pointing forwards! (fwd gearboxes, being mounted in-front of the cabin obvs have the gearshift coming out facing rearwards, meaning linking this to a stick that is now forwards, is hard to do in a low inertia, low friction way. Can it be done, yes, would it be any good, probably not, unless you are really willing to throw signficant time and ££ at it.......
If you want to, then be prepared to cast or CNC from solid a new gearbox casing with the shift mech coming out pointing forwards! (fwd gearboxes, being mounted in-front of the cabin obvs have the gearshift coming out facing rearwards, meaning linking this to a stick that is now forwards, is hard to do in a low inertia, low friction way. Can it be done, yes, would it be any good, probably not, unless you are really willing to throw signficant time and ££ at it.......
Max_Torque said:
Getting a decent gearshift is going to be really hard!
If you want to, then be prepared to cast or CNC from solid a new gearbox casing with the shift mech coming out pointing forwards! (fwd gearboxes, being mounted in-front of the cabin obvs have the gearshift coming out facing rearwards, meaning linking this to a stick that is now forwards, is hard to do in a low inertia, low friction way. Can it be done, yes, would it be any good, probably not, unless you are really willing to throw signficant time and ££ at it.......
Long cables.If you want to, then be prepared to cast or CNC from solid a new gearbox casing with the shift mech coming out pointing forwards! (fwd gearboxes, being mounted in-front of the cabin obvs have the gearshift coming out facing rearwards, meaning linking this to a stick that is now forwards, is hard to do in a low inertia, low friction way. Can it be done, yes, would it be any good, probably not, unless you are really willing to throw signficant time and ££ at it.......
But for the money such a conversion would cost....it does seem mental. I'd say you could easily be into £10k due to custom parts, engineering, installation....maybe even £15k.
To all intents and purposes make the car worse ? Unusual at best.
It would probably be better for someone to engineer a shift lever to mimic a manuals behaviour, albeit without the clutch pedal. Although that too could be emulated.
Shouldn't be hard, car has the same transmission as the megane rs that is offered in manual. The management side of things are also shared, so it will be a matter of swapping gearboxes, control units and do some stylistic fabrication to make it look good et voilá, le bleu bagette is now manual.
RsTuning is very well versed on megane tuning and I think frabrication, might be worth a call.
Litchfield are parts merchants, even their tunes are nothing to write home about, as well no real engineering or technical capability to make their own product, but they are a very SOLID honest company that knows who to use to make/develop bits and bobs and they might take interest in the project, so not a terrible shout as well.
RsTuning is very well versed on megane tuning and I think frabrication, might be worth a call.
Litchfield are parts merchants, even their tunes are nothing to write home about, as well no real engineering or technical capability to make their own product, but they are a very SOLID honest company that knows who to use to make/develop bits and bobs and they might take interest in the project, so not a terrible shout as well.
AI says this:
ai said:
Alpine A110 Manual Swap
Swapping the Alpine A110's automatic gearbox for a manual one is a complex and expensive task. The car was engineered without consideration for a manual transmission, meaning the interior and other components are not designed to accommodate a manual gearbox. However, enthusiasts have discussed the possibility of such a conversion, suggesting that it would require custom parts and significant engineering work.
One suggestion is to use the 6-speed manual gearbox from the Renault Mégane RS, but this would involve extensive modifications to fit the transmission and control units.
Another idea is to mimic a manual transmission's behavior with a sequential shift mechanism, but this would still not provide the traditional manual experience.
Several forums and discussions indicate that the cost of such a conversion could be very high, potentially reaching £10,000 to £15,000 due to the need for custom parts and installation.
Additionally, Alpine's chief engineer has stated that a manual transmission was considered early in the project but was ultimately deemed impractical due to the small percentage of customers who would prefer it and the business case favoring dual-clutch transmissions.
Despite these challenges, some tuning firms like Litchfield Motors have experience with Alpine A110 modifications and might be able to handle such a conversion.
Swapping the Alpine A110's automatic gearbox for a manual one is a complex and expensive task. The car was engineered without consideration for a manual transmission, meaning the interior and other components are not designed to accommodate a manual gearbox. However, enthusiasts have discussed the possibility of such a conversion, suggesting that it would require custom parts and significant engineering work.
One suggestion is to use the 6-speed manual gearbox from the Renault Mégane RS, but this would involve extensive modifications to fit the transmission and control units.
Another idea is to mimic a manual transmission's behavior with a sequential shift mechanism, but this would still not provide the traditional manual experience.
Several forums and discussions indicate that the cost of such a conversion could be very high, potentially reaching £10,000 to £15,000 due to the need for custom parts and installation.
Additionally, Alpine's chief engineer has stated that a manual transmission was considered early in the project but was ultimately deemed impractical due to the small percentage of customers who would prefer it and the business case favoring dual-clutch transmissions.
Despite these challenges, some tuning firms like Litchfield Motors have experience with Alpine A110 modifications and might be able to handle such a conversion.
GTRene said:
AI says this:
All you need to do now is get AI to take you back to 2021 & hope the OP still has the car.ai said:
Alpine A110 Manual Swap
Swapping the Alpine A110's automatic gearbox for a manual one is a complex and expensive task. The car was engineered without consideration for a manual transmission, meaning the interior and other components are not designed to accommodate a manual gearbox. However, enthusiasts have discussed the possibility of such a conversion, suggesting that it would require custom parts and significant engineering work.
One suggestion is to use the 6-speed manual gearbox from the Renault Mégane RS, but this would involve extensive modifications to fit the transmission and control units.
Another idea is to mimic a manual transmission's behavior with a sequential shift mechanism, but this would still not provide the traditional manual experience.
Several forums and discussions indicate that the cost of such a conversion could be very high, potentially reaching £10,000 to £15,000 due to the need for custom parts and installation.
Additionally, Alpine's chief engineer has stated that a manual transmission was considered early in the project but was ultimately deemed impractical due to the small percentage of customers who would prefer it and the business case favoring dual-clutch transmissions.
Despite these challenges, some tuning firms like Litchfield Motors have experience with Alpine A110 modifications and might be able to handle such a conversion.
Swapping the Alpine A110's automatic gearbox for a manual one is a complex and expensive task. The car was engineered without consideration for a manual transmission, meaning the interior and other components are not designed to accommodate a manual gearbox. However, enthusiasts have discussed the possibility of such a conversion, suggesting that it would require custom parts and significant engineering work.
One suggestion is to use the 6-speed manual gearbox from the Renault Mégane RS, but this would involve extensive modifications to fit the transmission and control units.
Another idea is to mimic a manual transmission's behavior with a sequential shift mechanism, but this would still not provide the traditional manual experience.
Several forums and discussions indicate that the cost of such a conversion could be very high, potentially reaching £10,000 to £15,000 due to the need for custom parts and installation.
Additionally, Alpine's chief engineer has stated that a manual transmission was considered early in the project but was ultimately deemed impractical due to the small percentage of customers who would prefer it and the business case favoring dual-clutch transmissions.
Despite these challenges, some tuning firms like Litchfield Motors have experience with Alpine A110 modifications and might be able to handle such a conversion.
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