The DVLA and makeing an engine at home
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Ok so lets say that i go mad take off into a shed with a pile of steel plate an load of the cheap 4 stroke gentators.
After much work an swearing a huge and dreadfull V16 is built, monster built of ideas like inherently balance.
How if i built such a thing bad as an idea as it is would i go about getting the DVLA on board to let it pass an MOT an be street legal.
After much work an swearing a huge and dreadfull V16 is built, monster built of ideas like inherently balance.
How if i built such a thing bad as an idea as it is would i go about getting the DVLA on board to let it pass an MOT an be street legal.
Funkmachine7 said:
Ok so lets say that i go mad take off into a shed with a pile of steel plate an load of the cheap 4 stroke gentators.
After much work an swearing a huge and dreadfull V16 is built, monster built of ideas like inherently balance.
How if i built such a thing bad as an idea as it is would i go about getting the DVLA on board to let it pass an MOT an be street legal.
The DVLA will treat it exactly the same as any other engine swap and it will be up to you to figure out how to get it to pass the emissions test for the MoT.After much work an swearing a huge and dreadfull V16 is built, monster built of ideas like inherently balance.
How if i built such a thing bad as an idea as it is would i go about getting the DVLA on board to let it pass an MOT an be street legal.
You'd not get an exemption for "older engine into newer car" - for which you'd need to prove the age of the engine, anyway.
So, given that, the emissions test would relate to the age of the car. So don't stick it into a new car. From vague memory, there is a change in the emissions requirements pre 1976, that would be your best shot.
ETA the key date is 1 Aug 1975. Before this (before P reg suffix), no emissions test is needed.
After this date, and before you needed a cat (1992-1994):
So, given that, the emissions test would relate to the age of the car. So don't stick it into a new car. From vague memory, there is a change in the emissions requirements pre 1976, that would be your best shot.
ETA the key date is 1 Aug 1975. Before this (before P reg suffix), no emissions test is needed.
After this date, and before you needed a cat (1992-1994):
Edited by paul_c123 on Tuesday 1st April 11:13
Edited by paul_c123 on Tuesday 1st April 11:15
Funkmachine7 said:
Ok so lets say that i go mad take off into a shed with a pile of steel plate an load of the cheap 4 stroke gentators.
After much work an swearing a huge and dreadfull V16 is built, monster built of ideas like inherently balance.
How if i built such a thing bad as an idea as it is would i go about getting the DVLA on board to let it pass an MOT an be street legal.
A lot depends what you're putting it into.After much work an swearing a huge and dreadfull V16 is built, monster built of ideas like inherently balance.
How if i built such a thing bad as an idea as it is would i go about getting the DVLA on board to let it pass an MOT an be street legal.
If something modern....you may face more hurdles than something very old.
Obviously it will still have to pass any relevant MOT, but the engine side of things there can be tested to the age of car, or engine,, whichever can be proven is the oldest.
But for the most part, just an engine swap isn't a huge deal unless it's an utter butchers job.
All joking aside, people can and do make fully working steam engines as a hobbyist with a small lathe and milling machine. They take a while, but its quite possible.
Apparently an internal combustion engine is much harder for a hobbyist to make and work properly, they need much tighter tolerances or something.
Apparently an internal combustion engine is much harder for a hobbyist to make and work properly, they need much tighter tolerances or something.
The engines age would be based on the block's year of manufacture, so 2025 after all its a new engine not a replacement part of a vehicle.
But as the emissions limits are based on the car age, so it would be looking for a home in an older car (or a new car that had Individual Vehicle Approval with the engine.)
It would be default limits as theres no book vaules to test it aginst.
But as the emissions limits are based on the car age, so it would be looking for a home in an older car (or a new car that had Individual Vehicle Approval with the engine.)
It would be default limits as theres no book vaules to test it aginst.
You could ask Allen Millyard how he gets his creations registered? He takes things like 4-cyl Japanese bike engines and turns them into 6s by cutting up two engines and welding the bits he wants back together.
He's pretty active on SM so I would think you might get an answer from him.
He's pretty active on SM so I would think you might get an answer from him.
-Cappo- said:
You could ask Allen Millyard how he gets his creations registered? He takes things like 4-cyl Japanese bike engines and turns them into 6s by cutting up two engines and welding the bits he wants back together.
He's pretty active on SM so I would think you might get an answer from him.
I trryed that an He's pretty active on SM so I would think you might get an answer from him.
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I can't blame the man its instagram, his youtube is empty an well facebook i look on like a plague.
Really i think that he's decareing the older and bigger donner as the modified engine, an thus retaining the legal identity an the test goals.
Which is factually right, A engine is altered to be X size with parts from Y.
my mad dream (V16 6 stoke (emissions) super charged, injector per port, 1600cc ) does not fit that that limit.
Still i now know that i just have to build a car to go with it . (not that i want too.)
Realy i like an argue for a radical engine based identy/ MOT (what is one engine or a dozen, if there made by a few mad engineers, what are they really going to do?) but thats event is likey not going to happen.
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So its a whole vehicle test to the highest sanded.
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