VW Golf GTi Mk5

[xcentric]

Cam follower for HPFP has scored the cam on my tuned and tweaked GTi.

Is it worth taking the head off and fixing? any ideas on complexity, how DIY it is, camshaft cost, etc? It's not just the cam follower, it's definitely the shaft too.

Are there engine specialists for whom it's routing and a few hundred quid in labour to do it - usually garage is quoting £202.5k to fix and I don't think it's worth that as who knows what other gremlins are in there (had balance shafts wear oval holes so oil pump not working properly and some low oil pressure lights. Hardly driven with low pressure, but it may well have damaged it, and after £1k fixing that, not sure if more costs worth it or not. But I do like the car.

[E-bmw]

xcentric said:

garage is quoting £202.5k to fix

I assume you don't actually mean £202,500.00 to fix this?

[paul_c123]

I'll do it for less than £202,500.

[Dave.]

I’d be looking for a low mileage, rear end damaged car to yank the engine out of personally.

[xcentric]

Dave. said:

I d be looking for a low mileage, rear end damaged car to yank the engine out of personally.

Yeah. the quote did seem high to me :-)

Thought of doing that, but again not sure how easy that is to DIY and the sorts of costs I'm looking at. Clutch, other ancillaries, buying engine hoist, etc. Long weekend? How much for a garage to do it?

And really, if yanking engine out of another, and rechipping that, then why not just buy another older GTi and redo that one? This one is good but not perfect - odd supermarket dings, seat bolster hole, etc.

[paul_c123]

I agree with the above, if the car has suffered an "oil event" in the past then consider the engine terminally damaged inside - specifically the cam, cam bearings, crank bearings, rod bearings, piston pins. And it may need an oil pump too depending on the cause of the "oil event".

Given all the above, it would be more economical to replace the engine than rebuild this one.

[E-bmw]

xcentric said:

Dave. said:

I d be looking for a low mileage, rear end damaged car to yank the engine out of personally.

Thought of doing that, but again not sure how easy that is to DIY and the sorts of costs I'm looking at. Clutch, other ancillaries, buying engine hoist, etc. Long weekend? How much for a garage to do it?

And really, if yanking engine out of another, and rechipping that, then why not just buy another older GTi and redo that one? This one is good but not perfect - odd supermarket dings, seat bolster hole, etc.

I did this on a Volvo V40 1.6 D last year on the drive/in the garage & would highly recommend it if you are anything like useful with spanners.

Engine £760
Clutch I already had as it was starting to slip at certain revs/conditions. £350
Cam belt & kit £140
All ancillaries stayed with the car from the old engine, some on the replacement were sold on ebay.
Engine hoist rental £50 for a week.
Changed main seal while I was in there.
Re-chipping isn't necessary as that is in the ECU not the engine.

1 day to fit new bits to the replacement engine (clutch/cambelt/main seal)
1 day to remove the old engine
1 day to clean/swap other ancillaries including injectors.
1 day to refit engine
1 day to do all fluids/check everything over, run to temperature etc.

The above was done on my own at all times except when lifting/dropping in the old/replacement engine and each "day" was in real terms 4 - 6 hours.

If there were me & A.N.Other handy with spanners 2 days max, partly in the garage when working on a loose engine & partly on the drive when removing/fitting.

Your NA Petrol Golf will be MUCH easier than the above.

[paul_c123]

Dat car got turbo

[E-bmw]

paul_c123 said:

Dat car got turbo

OK, I stand corrected, I would still rather that than the AGA I had to work round.

[xcentric]

ok interesting to know. I may look into doing that - just need to find some time I guess.... will look up values of car when done, think of value to me, and make a decision. Hardest part will be clearing out a space in the garage, I suspect....