Nissan Qashqai 1.2 timing chain 2016

[DSLiverpool]

Guys a workmate has a problem, the car lost power and stopped dead but a mechanic got it going again and it ran ok for a few miles then stopped again.
It’s £700 to fix apparently but I’m worried if it’s got further damage and it’s £700 wasted.

If it was revived after breaking down how bad can it be and is £700 about right ?

[stevemcs]

Are you sure it’s a chain issue ?

I’d usually say around £1000, it’s a days work if you do it to a good standard

[DSLiverpool]

stevemcs said:

Are you sure it s a chain issue ?

I d usually say around £1000, it s a days work if you do it to a good standard

They say it’s jumped a cog which to me sounds terminal but they can get it tinning it just doesn’t last

[stevemcs]

If it’s jumped a tooth then other than stripping it and putting the timing right I don’t see how they can get it too run before it reverts to running poorly again. These also have the habit of cooking themselves, seizing up but will then run once cooled down.

[DSLiverpool]

Hmm ok so fixed twice and lasts about 2 miles and dies. Could this be the cooking overheating then cooling then ok?

What’s the cooking fix? A flush?

[darreni]

DSLiverpool said:

Hmm ok so fixed twice and lasts about 2 miles and dies. Could this be the cooking overheating then cooling then ok?

What s the cooking fix? A flush?

Usually a replacement engine.

[DSLiverpool]

darreni said:

Usually a replacement engine.

Really !! It runs fine until it doesn’t

[E-bmw]

DSLiverpool said:

darreni said:

Usually a replacement engine.

Really !! It runs fine until it doesn t

Isn't that true of every fault on everything?

It worked fine until it didn't.

[DSLiverpool]

E-bmw said:

Isn't that true of every fault on everything?

It worked fine until it didn't.

But then it works again ??

[E-bmw]

DSLiverpool said:

E-bmw said:

Isn't that true of every fault on everything?

It worked fine until it didn't.

But then it works again ??

Until it doesn't.

Are you seeing the pattern yet?

[DSLiverpool]

Yeah a catastrophic engine failure doesn’t go again for several miles that’s why I’m on here asking. I can’t see how it’s a new engine

[E-bmw]

DSLiverpool said:

Yeah a catastrophic engine failure doesn t go again for several miles that s why I m on here asking. I can t see how it s a new engine

I am assuming you didn't read this post then?

stevemcs said:

If it s jumped a tooth then other than stripping it and putting the timing right I don t see how they can get it too run before it reverts to running poorly again. These also have the habit of cooking themselves, seizing up but will then run once cooled down.

From one of the most knowledgeable "technical-guys" on PH.

[DSLiverpool]

Ah no didn’t see that, it’s seized itself - that explains a lot.

[darreni]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQR-lmWpyiw

[ThingsBehindTheSun]

darreni said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQR-lmWpyiw

Yup, on my "won't touch with a bargepole" list along with the Ford Ecoboost, Stellantis Puretech and JLR Ingenium.

[DSLiverpool]

She’s stuck it on Facebook for any offer she can get - had 6 years from it but selling it a month ago would have been better

[stevemcs]

The one we had literally locked itself up when warm, it would start from cold but get some heat in and it started to seize, timing is fixed, it’s either out or it isn’t, usually with a cam/crank correlation.

Genuine engines are reasonable, but it’s still around £7000 for a genuine one fitted.

[ThingsBehindTheSun]

The amount of cars with this engine you see for sale on eBay with "new timing chain just fitted" is scary. You know the owner had a major engine issue, had a new chain fitted at great expensive and the thing has yet more problems such as burning oil and still doesn't run properly.

They then just want rid of the damn thing.

[DSLiverpool]

Interesting development tonight, they recon the chain has stretched a little but the 10 year old battery and apparently original sparkles are an issue. We will know tomorrow I’m not holding my breath

[vw_99]

Following this. A friend has the same car and does only local trips. Her first longer trip 50 miles the oil low pressure light came on just at the end of it. She parked up and bought oil and the car took 2 litres.
Drove home fine but 6 weeks later the car took another 1.5 litres. No obvious leaks under the car.