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Believe it or believe not, was on my way to Rotherham this afternoon to buy all the shite Meguires stuff to shine up my baby for next months Donnington deal, when all of a sudden @ +/- 50 mph straight road all hell broke loose and we ended up in a ditch. Luckily no injuries and no other vehicles involved, could have been so much worse, cant even think about what would have happened if I’d crossed into on coming traffic, so effing lucky. I really don’t know what happened! Absolutely no excessiveness from my part. So, just have to wait and see, insurance company seem ok and will drop off a shopping trolley to morrow and assess the damage for repair. Any advice on how to handle this ie repair would be appreciated, seeing as insurance companies not exactly up to speed with repairing our vehicles. If I knew how to post photos I would, bushes seem to be fairly solid in Yorkshire, damage massive. - Regards Dave
This is all worrying stuff you know, cos a few weeks back on my way back from London, I moved from middle lane to slow lane on M25 and car just went loopy and went right round in a circle. I ended up on the hard shoulder facing the oncoming traffic. It literally felt that the car dcided to do what it wanted to do and almost as if the sterring wheel was ripped out of my hands.
Have had no repetition of this since, but it shook me up a bit. I'm still convinced ther is something not quite right with the car, was almost as if the diff locked up causing the car to go way out of control.
Have had no repetition of this since, but it shook me up a bit. I'm still convinced ther is something not quite right with the car, was almost as if the diff locked up causing the car to go way out of control.
Could it be something to do with the handbrake (or "parking brake" ) mechanism coming on by mistake and locking up one of the rear wheels? The reason I mention this is because of the way the handbrake works on Monaros. There is no gradual increase in resistance as you pull the lever up. As you pull the lever up nothing happens for a while, and then 'bang' the brake comes on 100% with nothing inbetween. The wheel locks up solid. It gave me a fright when I pulled the lever up a while back just before I had come to a stop. Bang, both rear wheels locked up and skidded a bit. I jacked up the back end of the car and proved this is how it works. I've never liked the way the handbrake works on the Monaro, but Vauxhall say it's 'normal'. Just a thought ...
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 29th June 21:57
Likewise, sorry to hear 'bout your bad experience.
To throw another one into the ring, what about the Traction Control acting up?
As well as cutting the engine, I understand the brake is applied to the spinning wheel.
The consequences are obvious if one rear wheel is braked by a spurious signal to the control unit.
Any thoughts from the knowledgeable?
To throw another one into the ring, what about the Traction Control acting up?
As well as cutting the engine, I understand the brake is applied to the spinning wheel.
The consequences are obvious if one rear wheel is braked by a spurious signal to the control unit.
Any thoughts from the knowledgeable?
damn Shadok sorry to hear that about the car. Glad you and your passenger's are all okay. Cars can always be repaired/replaced. What people are saying on here is making me wonder now about the accident I had back in December. Because it was frosty I put it down to black ice but the car certainly spun through 180 faster than I thought possible - especially as I was going quite slowly at the time.
Well_Fans said:
damn Shadok sorry to hear that about the car. Glad you and your passenger's are all okay. Cars can always be repaired/replaced. What people are saying on here is making me wonder now about the accident I had back in December. Because it was frosty I put it down to black ice but the car certainly spun through 180 faster than I thought possible - especially as I was going quite slowly at the time.
I lost control of the car at 20mph on the cruise through Portsmouth a few weeks back, have got it on video and I can only put it down to hitting some oil or diesel on the road. Can think of no other logical explantion for it. In 2nd gear I slowy pulled out behind Graham (Picadors) and car went ballistic and snaked across both carriageways. Am glad it was a slow speed, otherwise could have been nasty.
Ron (bigwheel) funny you should mention traction control. Had to re start engine to assist recovery on back of truck for power steering, couldn’t steer without. and there was a traction control error on readout on dash display beeping and flashing, going to mention that to insurance recovery people tomorrow maybe possible to download from ecu moments prior to accident, just a thought, maybe could uncover something. But, traction control was on as always and no skid marks on the road!
The traction control systems on these cars are not that invasive and do not have any control over brakes and the like......
The system just closes the throttle when it sees a difference in wheel speeds, so only really works when excelarating and then only effective at slow speeds......
The warning on the dash might be due to the way the car landed! as the front wheels would have had a chance of spinning at a different speed to the rears (even a couple of MPH difference sets the display off)
As said above good to see you are ok......
The system just closes the throttle when it sees a difference in wheel speeds, so only really works when excelarating and then only effective at slow speeds......
The warning on the dash might be due to the way the car landed! as the front wheels would have had a chance of spinning at a different speed to the rears (even a couple of MPH difference sets the display off)
As said above good to see you are ok......
sorry to hear of your bad luck Shadok and like everyone else glad no one was hurt. I keep rereading this thread and to say its worrying is an understatement! Seems a few ppl have had the same experience and others have "heard" of others having similar probs. All very worrying if you ask me
Seems that this has happened at reasonably low speeds so far but I hate to think what would happen if it happened at 70 mph on a motorway or while someone was being a little over enthusiastic
I've noticed posts of pics of several wrecked Monaro's on the forum and a few other places too, certainly more than you would think there should be given that they are not exactly the most common motor on the road. On my way to work this morning I was consciously holding back (not a bad thing I know) but this thread kept popping into my mind and its definitely made me feel less confident about the safety of the car. Yeah probably silly I know but I like to have complete faith in what I'm driving and with all these weird happenings I'm not sure
Is there any correlation between models that this has happened on or is it across the board? Are there any stats available via insurers like how many motors on the road vs how many write offs and what the accidents were put down too? Maybe what tyres were in use at the time (thinking here if I remember rightly of the Firestone probs on the America market that were causing 4x4 to lose control resulting in many deaths).
I'm really not trying to scaremonger or overreact but having spent nearly 2 years deciding on getting one of these fab motors I dont want to feel like its gonna bite my arse in a big way through no fault of my own
Is it just me or are others in the slightest bit worried about this?
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