silver hsv for sale in wigan

[marcevo1]

anyone know of the car? its been in autotrader for ages - probably because its too expensive....

cheers

marc

[kiwiis200]

Hiya, i looked at that car 4 weeks ago, originally £19995 now 16995 still way to much i'd say. £ 12500 tops.

[Paul-C]

kiwiis200 said:

Hiya, i looked at that car 4 weeks ago, originally £19995 now 16995 still way to much i'd say. £ 12500 tops.

Its now only about a £1000 too much in my opinion if a pristine example. In case you dont know the HSV GTS and GTSR are very different cars to Monaro CV8 and VXR in either 5.7 or 6.0 litres. Far better handling and braking, increasingly rare and imported in far less numbers than the Monaros, this is the car that made them a legend in racing.

Edited by Paul-C on Wednesday 19th July 10:39

[marcevo1]

hhmmnn i thought between £12 and £15 for a good one.

as the car will be used on a daily basis to and from work the mintness is not that critical oposed to mechanical for me.

out of interest - outher than being too expensive what condition is it in? is it worth a look?

Marc

[ringram]

VXR Monaros supposidly handle better.
Again, check NZ/Oz prices for what they are really worth.

[marcevo1]

are the unofficial imports worth a lot less? anyone imported one?

[ringram]

Quite a few private imports including VYII 285KW Clubsports etc
Not sure if there are any 297KW Clubsport or other LS2's about though.
Paul runs the club so probably has a better idea on whats about.

[Dan_S V8]

I would have thought the VXR 6.0l would have handled at least as well as the older HSV's? Agree about the braking to an extent as I believe the GTS and GTSR came with Harrop 4 pots as standard which are superior to the ones fitted to the VXR. Since the VXR is a HSV anyway it doesn't make sense that the GTS and R which are 'older' models would be significantly better than the newer one. Maybe someone who has driven both would like to elaborate?

Edited by Dan_S V8 on Wednesday 19th July 17:39

[v8nhh]

I can only comment on difference between CV8 monaro and my GTSR, I found the interior better looking on the Monaro with nicer modern touches as you would expect, My HSV felt more planted and secure and had more grunt out of same corners in same gear/speed (diff ratio?) as for brakes I found my AP's big improvemnt over my Harrops (which are in garage!!) however the brakes on the CV8 are without shadow of a doubt terrible- heavy car with too pistons up front and they are not even apposing eg one side fixed!! what tat.

To sum it up Monaro gets more looks for mine to equal it need nice zorst to get heads turning
For comfort and usability = Gtsr over monaro as monaro not very practical (2005 boot)
As for performance will let you know after Nurgburgring this weekend I will try and get video posted if I can get passenger to hold camera steady!!

[kiwiis200]

hey marcevo,condition is only average as far as i reckon ( i manage an accident repair shop) defo think its not worth £16995 THATS for sure got mine for £12000 last week and in better knick.take a look an if ya keen make an offer, he wants rid.double check service history tho to make sure.

[A57 HSV]

If it's the car with a bee-sting aerial on the roof, It was my first HSV bought new in Sep. 2000. P.M me for a chat if you want more info.
It has been discussed here before, so try searching back.

[ringram]

Hey kiwi what did you get? 2000 GTS (R8)?
Mileage?

[marcevo1]

sounds as if you may have got the £12k car i was pondering over kiwi? i was waiting on word of a new job :-(

[Paul-C]

Dan_S V8 said:

I would have thought the VXR 6.0l would have handled at least as well as the older HSV's? Agree about the braking to an extent as I believe the GTS and GTSR came with Harrop 4 pots as standard which are superior to the ones fitted to the VXR. Since the VXR is a HSV anyway it doesn't make sense that the GTS and R which are 'older' models would be significantly better than the newer one. Maybe someone who has driven both would like to elaborate?

Edited by Dan_S V8 on Wednesday 19th July 17:39

If this sounds like I am denegrating the Monaro I apologise in advance as apart from the older HSV's and (gasp!) MG ZT 260's I regard them as better than anything including Germanys finest.

I tried a 5.7 litre and 6 litre VXR on a track back to back with one of my HSVs on two occassions, both dry. The HSV (2000 GTS) had OE suspension and Harrop brakes with Porterfield pads, which genuinely match AP despite this claim being rubbished They were both inferior to the HSV and allegedly I can drive a bit quickly I also compared one to a tuned (circa 300 BHP) MG ZT260, once again with OE (but they are AP) brakes and suspension. Again they were inferior.

I was going to buy one subject to their comparative performance. Having said that since then, with the availabilty of suspension and brake upgrades I am going to buy a 6 litre VXR and probably part with my M5 as I will not get rid of an HSV. It will be interesting to see if it can be made as good. If anyone would like to have a play in either an HSV or an MG to see what I'm talking about I would more than happy to help.

[kiwiis200]

Yeh possibly marco, it was tiger mica hsv at monkfish.sorry about that bro beat ya to it.

[Dan_S V8]

Wow, thanks for the reply paul. I did not think you were rubbishing it at all and as we both know there are plenty of upgrades available re suspension and brakes. I just simply don't have enough experience of the various models to be able to compare and it is great that someone as experienced as yourself (who can drive a bit quickly ) can make a fair and unbiased opinion. I look forward to hearing the results when you buy your 6.0 VXR!