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Boyce

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204 posts

233 months

Sunday 28th January 2007
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In case any of you guy's have got any rubber left on your tyres by mid feb, thought you may be interested in heading to Santa Pod for a RWYB day on the 17th Feb. See Santapod.co.uk. for details.

I'm heading up from the Wokingham area in my standard VXR, want to get some 1/4 mile base line's before I start modding. So far I'm being accompanied by a Tivi T350c, an S2000 and maybe a Chimeara.

I am a little concerned the T350 will show me a clean pair of heels however, so if any modded motors were to come along and step up to the plate it could be pretty interesting!!

There is also some night racing to be had which should be fun.

Cheers all

Mark

SS HSV

9,646 posts

280 months

Sunday 28th January 2007
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Hi Boyce. I may be interested in going to that too. You're just down the road from me as I am based at J4 on the M4. The only negative is that I have just started a new contract and my client seems to want most of my time at the moment!

I am also about to embark on a tuning spree so getting some 'before' times would be good.

ringram

14,701 posts

270 months

Sunday 28th January 2007
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Oooh, BO55 make this a sticky please Sir.

Lets see who would like to make it.

Pencil me in.

well_fans

4,193 posts

246 months

Monday 29th January 2007
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word of warning re santa pod and monaro's. V6 JDT and I ventured along before Silverstone BTCC last year and his clutch gave up and boiled his fluid. Even when it cooled it wasn't quite right and both clutch and fluid needed replaced and that was with a cv8 - its a very sticky surface and you get masses of grip off the line.

stevieturbo

17,934 posts

269 months

Monday 29th January 2007
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well_fans said:
word of warning re santa pod and monaro's. V6 JDT and I ventured along before Silverstone BTCC last year and his clutch gave up and boiled his fluid. Even when it cooled it wasn't quite right and both clutch and fluid needed replaced and that was with a cv8 - its a very sticky surface and you get masses of grip off the line.


How could anyone possibly get enough runs at Santa Pod to do that ? Last time I was there, it was circa 2 hours queuing in between runs.

I still dont believe this boiling fluid theory. I do believe plenty of cars have an inadequate clutch though, ad as you say, if track prep is good, it will be very grippy.
If prep isnt good, its nothing special.

Island boy hsv

726 posts

261 months

Monday 29th January 2007
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When I was up at the Pod last year I had no problems 3 runs, I was in a modified car and there was a standard VXR running against me on each run. On that day it was sticky and alot of grip was avalible but neither car has a problem with it.

stigcv8

22,454 posts

232 months

Monday 29th January 2007
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sounds good, I might have the mods finished by then too. Have suggested shakespears too as that is a great track and usually much more quiet than the pod

Boyce

Original Poster:

204 posts

233 months

Monday 29th January 2007
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Great stuff more the merrier.

Gonna drop my car in at Bellingers for a once over prior, to reduce the melt down risk. But whatever, thats what I bought the car for so I can't wait. Might have to invest in sone new rubber after though!

Nearer the date we can arrange a meet up time and point,

Cheers all.

Boyce

Original Poster:

204 posts

233 months

Monday 29th January 2007
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Anyone Know how to make this a sticky ?

Cheers

stigcv8

22,454 posts

232 months

Monday 29th January 2007
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well_fans said:
word of warning re santa pod and monaro's. V6 JDT and I ventured along before Silverstone BTCC last year and his clutch gave up and boiled his fluid. Even when it cooled it wasn't quite right and both clutch and fluid needed replaced and that was with a cv8 - its a very sticky surface and you get masses of grip off the line.


which is a good point, shakespears isnt as super sticky off the line, in fact the first 60 you end up mostly backing off due to slip. Worth speaking to Slinky about these things

stevieturbo

17,934 posts

269 months

Monday 29th January 2007
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Ive found Shakespeare to be very good. Not a pile different to Santa Pod TBH.

Only bad thing is, they dont start until late march

It would be a much better venue though, simple because you can actually get near the track !!!!

Boyce

Original Poster:

204 posts

233 months

Sunday 11th February 2007
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Hi guy's, getting nearer that time if anyones still interested. Track opens at 9am, and sign on is from 8am, not sure what time the latest sign on is however, i'll try and find out.

Had Bellengers do a health check on the car and all looks good, they lent me an Astra VXR for the occaision which was good fun, but I wouldn't swap it for the RO'.

If anyone does want to come and meet up let me know maybe we can organize a convoy or something.

Cheers all

Mark

ringram

14,701 posts

270 months

Sunday 11th February 2007
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Unfortunately looks like Ill be working in Ipswitch that day now

stevieturbo

17,934 posts

269 months

Sunday 11th February 2007
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Boyce said:
Track opens at 9am, and sign on is from 8am, not sure what time the latest sign on is however


Weather permitting.

If its like Octobers night drags, I think they stopped signing on around lunchtime, or maybe a bit after. Even by that time, queueing time was circa 2 hours.
Racing then didnt start til almost mid-day, due to the weather on saturday morning ( fog/mist so damp track ) then on Saturday, some junker had spewed crap over the track late Sat night, and it was only noticed on Sunday morning. They had been cleaing the track on sunday from like 7am. Racing again didnt start til around 11am.

IMO they let far far too many people sign on, knowing full well most of them will get hardly any runs at all. Even when the place was totally bunged out, they still seemed to be signing people on.

If they placed a limit on the numbers signing on, it would make for a better day for everyone. You get there late, tough luck.

stigcv8

22,454 posts

232 months

Sunday 11th February 2007
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which is why i keep banging on about shakespears... turn up, sign on, get on track - usually 15 mins max queue time

Boyce

Original Poster:

204 posts

233 months

Friday 16th February 2007
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Tomorrows the big day guy's if anyone does fancy attending.
Registration is from 8am, and its advised to attend by 9.30am as it will be busy.

If anyone just wants to come and watch, admission is £10 and I'll be the one with the silver VXR, don't spose there will be many there to confuse with!

Cheers all,

slinky

15,704 posts

271 months

Friday 16th February 2007
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Did someone mention my name

Shakey is a good track, prep is good, we've run 9 second passes with temps at -2..

Would anyone like me to post my tips for an enjoyable day at the strip?

btw, any questions, drop me a line I'm happy to answer..

slinky

slinky

15,704 posts

271 months

Friday 16th February 2007
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Slinkys tips for an enjoyable day on the drag strip

1.) Wear long sleeves, Marshall's don't like T-Shirts
2.) If you have a helmet, take it.. You may need it
3.) Empty your car of all the crud you don't need.. Not only will the extra weight impair your run, you don't want a foot well full of crud when you launch hard!
4.) Take the first few runs easy, you don't need to nail the start the first time you get on the Christmas tree. Get used to how your car will react on the strip first, and then go for it.
5.) Pay close attention to your gauges, not only do you not want to kill you car, you don't want to lay a trail of oil/water down the strip, your fellow quarter mile junkies will not like you!
6.) If you are running against another car that you think you may have equal performance to, keep an eye out for the win light on the other side of the finish line... There is one for each lane (an amber light on the guard rail at Santa Pod)
7.) Pay attention in the shutdown area. Know where the other car is!

The Christmas tree explained...

The lights sequence is as follows:

1st light: White: Pre Stage: 6-8 inches away from the start line
2nd light: White: Stage: The Start line
3rd light: Amber: Get ready
4th light: Amber: Get Steady!
5th light: Amber: Nearly
6th light: Green: GO!!!
7th light: Red: Bugger... Went too soon...

So.. You approach the start line and drop into pre-stage.. The choice is now yours as to whether you wait for your "opponent" to drop into stage first or whether you just dive straight on it.. (Creep into stage! it really isn't very far between the two).. If you go too far, the top light will go out... This is called Deep Staging (and is allowed, so don't panic!)

Once you are both in stage, the chief starter will click his button and commence the countdown.

The Amber lights will count down sequentially at 0.4s intervals, although it is now the norm to run a “Pro Tree” at RWYB , This means that all of the ambers will light together, so that’s three ambers then 0.4 second delay, then green. Now here's a trick.. You can pretty much go on the last amber (in a street car) as by the time your brain has processed the information and asked your legs to do the business, the green light will have illuminated!

Dependant on grip available on the day, you need to tailor your launch procedure. With lots of power and street tyres, you will probably find it best to "granny it" off the line then give it some stick once you've got a little bit of speed up. Doing this will mean you don't fry your tyres.. or, if it's grippy, destroy a half shaft/diff (easily done!)

But before you get anywhere near the track in your car, watch someone else do it.. You’ll be amazed at how much your brain struggles to take everything in the first time you hit the strip and see the Christmas tree..

With these tips in mind, you should have a cracking day!

Hope that helps folks..

slinky
587racing.com

Boyce

Original Poster:

204 posts

233 months

Friday 16th February 2007
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Slinky,

Thanks buddy great info, I'll study it in the two hour que i'll no doubt face!

Anyone got any idea's what sort of time a stock 04VXR should run, wet/dry?
I'm hopeing for sub 15sec's in the dry.

Cheers

stevieturbo

17,934 posts

269 months

Friday 16th February 2007
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If the track is wet at all.

NO car runs.