screwed again.... HELP plz
screwed again.... HELP plz
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SergSC

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508 posts

184 months

Friday 12th April 2013
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Stuck in petrol station AGAIN.
Car will not un-imobilize. First happened today but eventually worked after multiple tries, but now not at all.
Also I think I buggered the ecu disconnecting the battery and back on again. FRAM FAILED code 247. What do I do?

SergSC

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508 posts

184 months

Friday 12th April 2013
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steveT350C said:
Can u get into car?
Yes, it locks and unlocks. But the immobiliser doesnt stop flashing. Pump wont prime.
I disconnected the battery lead that is in the passenger footwell twice for a while, on the second time I fried some fram because I had left the key on frown

alex_gray255

6,331 posts

227 months

Friday 12th April 2013
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Errr... Yes, I think you may have damaged the ECU memory by the looks of it. Other cause might be the ECU battery failed, but FRAM usually refers to PROM issues (possibly corrupted block).

SergSC

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508 posts

184 months

Friday 12th April 2013
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Tried re-seating the imobilser fuses but didnt work.
My tel is 07500925336

SergSC

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508 posts

184 months

Friday 12th April 2013
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Is ther any point pursuing a path to try to deimobilise it just so I can get it moved from here?
Would it even drive with screwed fram? The symptom that I can see is that the dash doesnt remember settings. If I change lcd contrast and turn off and on its back at default. Should I call aa so that they ship the car to dreadnought garage? I suppose the worst is I omex the thing...

It was going so well, was wo chuffed with balanced TB's...

SergSC

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508 posts

184 months

Friday 12th April 2013
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And my odometer is zeroed.... fk.

shep1001

4,617 posts

211 months

Friday 12th April 2013
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Check the plug/wires have not come loose. You had the door ECU out the other week and both boxes live in the same hidey hole. You have to move one to get to the other. Whilst you are down there unplug it for a couple of mins. Are you sure you removed the right fuses as there is both a switch & a perm 12v supply? let me know & I will text you which to remove if you are unsure.

Shep

SergSC

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508 posts

184 months

Friday 12th April 2013
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shep1001 said:
Check the plug/wires have not come loose. You had the door ECU out the other week and both boxes live in the same hidey hole. You have to move one to get to the other. Whilst you are down there unplug it for a couple of mins. Are you sure you removed the right fuses as there is both a switch & a perm 12v supply? let me know & I will text you which to remove if you are unsure.

Shep
I unplugged and repluged the door ecu box whilst I was there screwing the F-RAM with the battery. In the fuse box I'm pretty sure reseated the relevant fuses according to manual and a few more to make sure I got it.


SergSC

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508 posts

184 months

Friday 12th April 2013
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I'm wondering if it started playing up because it was raining today. My lotus occasionally turned off its dash in wet weather, requiring a battery disconnect/reconnect to re-activate.

geoffphead

637 posts

223 months

Friday 12th April 2013
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Serg give the guys at Track V road a call in the morning, i had fram issues and it was a few things.one being Fram battery .It may not be too bad as Shep said there is a lot of stuff that you can dislodge in the footwell. I hope you get it sorted, all these things are teething troubles.Has the car been sitting around not being used?

SergSC

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508 posts

184 months

Friday 12th April 2013
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I have been using it every day but it may have sat for ages before I bought it from TonyGilbert a few weeks ago.
I'll give them a call tomorrow.

If anyone knows how to manually de-immobilise it I would appreciate if you could let me know how via pm.

Cheers
S

T66ORA

3,474 posts

279 months

Friday 12th April 2013
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I take it you have tried de-immobilising both with the main key and the immob fob?( can be done both ways, i always use the key never the fob)
I might be wrong but sounds like you might have two separate issues? The dash has its own watch type battery back up, the symptoms you describe may be a flat dash battery? So when you turn the ignition off it looses any memory.
The immobiliser might be separate?
Stranger things have happened with TVRs
Good luck.

SergSC

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508 posts

184 months

Friday 12th April 2013
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T66ORA said:
I take it you have tried de-immobilising both with the main key and the immob fob?( can be done both ways, i always use the key never the fob)
I might be wrong but sounds like you might have two separate issues? The dash has its own watch type battery back up, the symptoms you describe may be a flat dash battery? So when you turn the ignition off it looses any memory.
The immobiliser might be separate?
Stranger things have happened with TVRs
Good luck.
I think I caused the dash issue in my attempt to reset things by disconnecting/reconnecting the battery while accidentaly leaving the car on. The fram error apppeared imediately after this... not a mistake you want to make in any car as the outcome will likely be similar.
The dash still works, displays sensor info etc, just doesnt remember anything after turning Off/On.

Re key and fob, I have tried every combination, held the fob in etc etc.

SergSC

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508 posts

184 months

Saturday 13th April 2013
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Car is now on a low loader on the way to the garage. It spent the night at the 24hr petrol station in view of cctv.

So, this morning while waiting for the low loader I found the imob box and disconnected for 2 mins and reseated. Nothing. Light just keeps flashing.

Any idea what this is going to cost me?

cheers
S

SPS

1,306 posts

282 months

Saturday 13th April 2013
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Hi mate - have you had any feed back from Tony re the issues. He is usually very supportive and as you have only had the car for a couple of months I would definitely have a chat with him.
I bought my T350 from him in August 2012 besides the car being great I checked him out first and had really good feed back about how good he was with regards to after purchase support.
Good luck.
SPS

SergSC

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508 posts

184 months

Saturday 13th April 2013
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SPS said:
Hi mate - have you had any feed back from Tony re the issues. He is usually very supportive and as you have only had the car for a couple of months I would definitely have a chat with him.
I bought my T350 from him in August 2012 besides the car being great I checked him out first and had really good feed back about how good he was with regards to after purchase support.
Good luck.
SPS
Not sure what he could do for me other than suggest I take it to a good auto electrician.
I do have a warranty that should cover the cost of the immobiliser if it is indeed buggered.

shep1001

4,617 posts

211 months

Saturday 13th April 2013
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SergSC said:
Not sure what he could do for me other than suggest I take it to a good auto electrician.
I do have a warranty that should cover the cost of the immobiliser if it is indeed buggered.
Do you have the touch keys for the immobiliser or are you just disarming it off the key fob?

SergSC

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508 posts

184 months

Saturday 13th April 2013
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I tried both, including the spare keys/fobs, many times in every conceivable combination.
Disconnected/re-connected the battery and immobiliser module and fuses.
The car locks and unlocks fine wirelessly so I guess that part of the system is ok, but it just wont deactivate the immobiliser, immob light is always flashing, stays constant On whilst the fob is in but starts flashing a second after I remove it. Fuel pump doesn't prime. I tried having the fob in and turning the ignition on during the second that it doesn't flash... every conceivable combination basically.

To clarify the whole thing here is the sequence of events:

- Yesterday upon leaving the supermarket car park the immobiliser doesn't disarm, after multiple attempts I call Dreadnought and we go through the steps again, so after a few more attempts it works and I can start the engine.

-I need fuel so stop for juice but am wary of it happening again. And it does but now it doesn't recover after many many attempts.

-Before calling AA I start looking for help and ways to reset the system.

-I fry the f-ram when during a lapse of concentration brought on by frustration I forget to turn Off car on the second time I try the battery reconnection. TrackVRoad said it is very unlikely I damaged the MBE but that the dash ecu/f-ram is sensitive because it operates at a lower voltage. From what I can gather online the car should still run normally despite the dash being amnesic. This is afaik now a separate issue.

-I call AA, they have to send a guy to see it before they will book a low loader. He says he is able to cut some wires to get it started/moved but we decide its best not to start butchering.

-Car stays overnight.

-This morning I try everything again, nothing new happens. Car is now at Dreadnought, to be looked at Monday. They really don't rate the Meta immob highly at all.

Btw, the chap at TrackVRoad is super helpful/nice and even offered to guide Dreadnought garage re the fried F-RAM because of our geographical distance.

Many thanks for you assistance guys btw, hopefully I can repay one day.

Cheers
S