V12 badges

[Simpo Two]

Seems a shame not to mention the fact that you have 8 more (200% more!) more cylinders than most other cars on the road, so I bought a couple of the proper V12 badges. The idea was to put one opposite the DB9 badge, but it looks wrong because it's noticeably smaller. Where do they officially go? Or would it seem frightful and tacky and best left alone?

[Minglar]

I think next to the side indicator is the position of choice rather than on the boot next to the model name. I bought two for my car ages ago but never actually stuck them on. I do have a standard one on my boot though, so I’m not too worried.


Best Regards

Minglar

[Calinours]

As Minglar says, front wing.

Here where they are on my car, still a V12, despite being a mincing little 5.2




Hope it is helpful - sorry for my camper van spoiling the pic a bit

[Simpo Two]

Thanks very much for the replies.

Minglar said:

I do have a standard one on my boot though, so I’m not too worried.

I'm guessing that's not a Gaydon-era car?

Calinours said:

As Minglar says, front wing.

Here where they are on my car, still a V12, despite being a mincing little 5.2

Thanks, I had a suspicion it might be. But what is the point of a badge there? - the poor wretches behind me won't see it and gasp in awe...

[Minglar]

Simpo Two said:

Thanks very much for the replies.

Minglar said:

I do have a standard one on my boot though, so I’m not too worried.

I'm guessing that's not a Gaydon-era car?

Six speed V12V. Standard on the boot next to the Vantage badge. A lot of later V12VS cars had V12 badges on the front wings next to the indicator lights. I think it was an optional extra. If your DB9 has the older style indicators rather than the later DBS “in the strake” style (same as DB9 GT) it may be worth googling pictures of V12VSs to get an idea on the official placement. But as you say, it will only be any good for the traffic lights GP.


Best Regards

Minglar

[Simpo Two]

I went out to take a photo of the back, but it was so shiny all you could see was the house behind it!

So I did a rather poor mock-up on a photo I took for the insurance valuation...



That's the least offensive position I can find on the back. Ideally it would say 'DB9' on the left and 'V12' on the right, but we are where we are.

Minglar said:

Six speed V12V. Standard on the boot next to the Vantage badge.

Aha... would you mind telling me the dimensions? Mine are 35 x 18mm.

[Octavarium]

You could always get yourself a V12 prefixed numberplate from the DVLA.

[Simpo Two]

Octavarium said:

You could always get yourself a V12 prefixed numberplate from the DVLA.

Yep, thought of those - not expensive - but after much consideration I decided that a private plate would look like I was trying to hide the age of the car... plus extra faff when you sell it.

[Minglar]

Simpo Two said:

I went out to take a photo of the back, but it was so shiny all you could see was the house behind it!

So I did a rather poor mock-up on a photo I took for the insurance valuation...



That's the least offensive position I can find on the back. Ideally it would say 'DB9' on the left and 'V12' on the right, but we are where we are.

Minglar said:

Six speed V12V. Standard on the boot next to the Vantage badge.

Aha... would you mind telling me the dimensions? Mine are 35 x 18mm.

Size sounds right to me. At the end of the day it’s your car, so there’s no need to feel any pressure to place them in a certain position. Just do whatever you like. I got my two from astonmartinbits and I don’t recall there being a choice of size. It was a long time ago but I am fairly sure the V12 badges are all the same size on the Gaydon cars, possibly even on latest V12 Vantage too? That car has them on the side in amongst in gills, scoops and fins etc. Is the interior one in that car bigger? Maybe. But as Octavarium said, perhaps a V12 number plate would be a good alternative too, if something is available that works for you?

ETA….just seen your reply to the number plate option. Sorry.

Best Regards

Minglar

Edited by Minglar on Monday 19th June 18:40

Edited by Minglar on Monday 19th June 18:48

[oilit]

You could take them back and put an i6 badge above each exhaust on the bumper

[Calinours]

Simpo Two said:

Thanks very much for the replies.

Minglar said:

I do have a standard one on my boot though, so I’m not too worried.

I'm guessing that's not a Gaydon-era car?

Calinours said:

As Minglar says, front wing.

Here where they are on my car, still a V12, despite being a mincing little 5.2

Thanks, I had a suspicion it might be. But what is the point of a badge there? - the poor wretches behind me won't see it and gasp in awe...

I know you talk in jest, but if some teensy bit of you is seriously thinking it, don’t put it on the back. It’s not meant to be there and all the usual rules about overbadging will then apply to you. Are you sure you want that?

Why overbadging is stupid:

1. Normal everyday individuals are not impressed. They do not know what they are looking at and don’t care anyway.

2. Those who do know what they are looking at immediately know that the badge shouldn’t be there and that you (or someone) has put it there. Thus, the very people likely to be most impressed will immediately think ‘what a Rodney’.



and yes I know putting a V12 badge on a V12 car isn’t technically ‘overbadging’, it will just look wrong and only be noticed and ‘commented on’ by folks like the venerable doyens of this forum…

https://youtu.be/rA0ya6S6IPY

Edited by Calinours on Monday 19th June 20:31

[Simpo Two]

Calinours said:

I know you talk in jest, but if some teensy bit of you is seriously thinking it, don’t put it on the back. It’s not meant to be there and all the usual rules about overbadging will then apply to you. Are you sure you want that?

Well this is why I've had the badges for a few months and still not used them. I agree there is a 'breed standard' and with Astons more than most, it should be kept to. I will just have to ensure I park side on to everyone else...




So I suppose cherry bomb zorsts and a fk-off boot spoiler are out of the question?

[AdamV12V]

Simpo Two said:

Thanks, I had a suspicion it might be. But what is the point of a badge there? - the poor wretches behind me won't see it and gasp in awe...

It's so they can see them as you overtake and they look sideways and exclaim "Oh WOW, look at that car! I wonder how many cylinders... oh, 12... wow!"

Edited by AdamV12V on Monday 19th June 21:28

[Minglar]

Regarding point number 2 from Calinours, I suspect most on here will know if it looks “right” or not. I may be wrong but I think the only Gaydon cars with a V12 badge on the boot are Vantage, ie the six speed original and later S models. I have seen cars for sale where the “Vantage(S)” badge was removed and the “V12” badge was repositioned slightly to the right. Now, that does look weird to me. Personally I think you can’t go wrong with placing them on the front wings near the indicators. It’s how they come from the factory, it’s a bit more discreet and those who know will know. And of course, what Adam said!


Best Regards

Minglar

[Simpo Two]

AdamV12V said:

Simpo Two said:

Thanks, I had a suspicion it might be. But what is the point of a badge there? - the poor wretches behind me won't see it and gasp in awe...

It's so they can see them as you overtake and they look sideways and exclaim "Oh WOW, look at that car! I wonder how many cylinders... oh, 12... wow!"

Exactly, and you have proven my theory correct

In fact, in Pentland Green, it's surprisingly subtle and I suspect most ordinary folk wouldn't give it a second glance in the supermarket car park. I only open the exhaust valves if some upstart needs to be Astoned...

Wasn't there a Special Edition DB9 that had the V12 badges? If so can anyone find a photo?

[Jon39]

AdamV12V said:

It's so they can see them as you overtake and they look sideways and exclaim "Oh WOW, look at that car! I wonder how many cylinders... oh, 12... wow!"

Presume irony Adam, but it does emphasise the point, that any badges can only really be seen/read, when we are close to a stationary car.

Imagine these cars are overtaking you.
Which rear badges can you read?














Point made.

[Calinours]

So, to conclude, the advice is:

put discrete V12 badges on the wings, in the same position the factory hs been known to put them on the bigger car and not the shouty ruffian little Vantage where sometimes the V12 is shoehorned in and there’s a need to advertise that one comes with ‘bigger tackle’ than the otherwise similar looking contempories… All on here, naturally, just as with the ladies, all know what that actually means……

There’s just no need to shout that a DB9 has a V12, they all come with the big tackle… darling….

Discreet, subtle, very ‘Aston’ and when you blast past your victims, on hearing the thunder about to overcome them will fearfully glance sideways and note/accept their utter inferiority and be suitably impressed by the subtlety of your ‘numbers’

You know it makes sense…

Edited by Calinours on Monday 19th June 22:06

[Simpo Two]

Jon39 said:

Imagine these cars are overtaking you.
Which rear badges can you read?
Point made.

Not necessarily - on most journeys I'm stuck in a line of traffic, often at speeds <30mph, and so the occupants of the car behind have ample opportunity to check out the rear silverwork from quite short range...

[Jon39]

Simpo Two said:

Not necessarily - on most journeys I'm stuck in a line of traffic, often at speeds <30mph, and so the occupants of the car behind have ample opportunity to check out the rear silverwork from quite short range...

If the occupants of the car behind, don't know that all DB9s have the same V12 engines, then they might see your V12 badge and think it has something to do with a World War II rocket.

[alscar]

Minglar said:

Regarding point number 2 from Calinours, I suspect most on here will know if it looks “right” or not. I may be wrong but I think the only Gaydon cars with a V12 badge on the boot are Vantage, ie the six speed original and later S models. I have seen cars for sale where the “Vantage(S)” badge was removed and the “V12” badge was repositioned slightly to the right. Now, that does look weird to me. Personally I think you can’t go wrong with placing them on the front wings near the indicators. It’s how they come from the factory, it’s a bit more discreet and those who know will know. And of course, what Adam said!


Best Regards

Minglar

I took the Vantage + S script off and left the V12 badge where it was and added the S ( originally red ) all resprayed in black by Works.