Toyota Supra mk3 Any good?
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First post, long time stalker of the forums.
I currently have a MR2 rev 1 turbo standard, (don't beleive what people say about the handling, as long as you don't act like a complete e'diot in the wet they are great). anyway, back to it.
Basically what I want is an MR2 with more seats (MR4?) and the to me the obvious step is the Supra MK3. the insurance between the 3.0na and turbo is only £100 different so it doesnt really matter.
Q 1, If I go for the NA will I find it slow?
Q 2, How fast are they, na or turbo, I find contrasting information on the net
Q 3, Whats the motorway cruising revs. (70mph)
Q 4, Whats the in gear acceleration like? 30-80 mph
Any answers to the above would be great.
I currently have a MR2 rev 1 turbo standard, (don't beleive what people say about the handling, as long as you don't act like a complete e'diot in the wet they are great). anyway, back to it.
Basically what I want is an MR2 with more seats (MR4?) and the to me the obvious step is the Supra MK3. the insurance between the 3.0na and turbo is only £100 different so it doesnt really matter.
Q 1, If I go for the NA will I find it slow?
Q 2, How fast are they, na or turbo, I find contrasting information on the net
Q 3, Whats the motorway cruising revs. (70mph)
Q 4, Whats the in gear acceleration like? 30-80 mph
Any answers to the above would be great.
Chris3003 said:
First post, long time stalker of the forums.
I currently have a MR2 rev 1 turbo standard, (don't beleive what people say about the handling, as long as you don't act like a complete e'diot in the wet they are great). anyway, back to it.
Basically what I want is an MR2 with more seats (MR4?) and the to me the obvious step is the Supra MK3. the insurance between the 3.0na and turbo is only £100 different so it doesnt really matter.
Q 1, If I go for the NA will I find it slow?
Q 2, How fast are they, na or turbo, I find contrasting information on the net
Q 3, Whats the motorway cruising revs. (70mph)
Q 4, Whats the in gear acceleration like? 30-80 mph
Any answers to the above would be great.
Q1 Yes - the 7M-GE engine isn't the most potent thing in the world (190bhp when new....probably less on a 20 year old engine)I currently have a MR2 rev 1 turbo standard, (don't beleive what people say about the handling, as long as you don't act like a complete e'diot in the wet they are great). anyway, back to it.
Basically what I want is an MR2 with more seats (MR4?) and the to me the obvious step is the Supra MK3. the insurance between the 3.0na and turbo is only £100 different so it doesnt really matter.
Q 1, If I go for the NA will I find it slow?
Q 2, How fast are they, na or turbo, I find contrasting information on the net
Q 3, Whats the motorway cruising revs. (70mph)
Q 4, Whats the in gear acceleration like? 30-80 mph
Any answers to the above would be great.
Q2 N/As arent fast by todays standards. Turbos are quickish, and at 1,500kg are only as heavy as todays hatchbacks.
Q3 no idea
Q4 no idea, probably not much different to your MR2 turbo
if you want a mk3 supra, i would keep your eyes peeled for a Jap import with the 1JZ twinturbo engine - 280bhp and a more modern design.
My advice would be to just go get one!
I love the sound of the 7M/1JZ and I think they look very cool with the JDM rear lights. Go for a UK turbo. Most of them will have had the head gasket problem sorted (torqued down more).
I am not an owner of a mk3 nor have I driven one or even sat in one... I have however, watched far too many videos on youtube featuring mk3 supras
Try mkiii forum
http://www.mkiiisupra.net/bbs/index.php
I love the sound of the 7M/1JZ and I think they look very cool with the JDM rear lights. Go for a UK turbo. Most of them will have had the head gasket problem sorted (torqued down more).
I am not an owner of a mk3 nor have I driven one or even sat in one... I have however, watched far too many videos on youtube featuring mk3 supras
Try mkiii forum
http://www.mkiiisupra.net/bbs/index.php
Marf said:
Jag-D said:
Marf said:
Get an import with the 1JZ twin turbo lump.
Far stronger than the 7MGTE and much much more tunable.
And not so prone to the HG failure!Far stronger than the 7MGTE and much much more tunable.
Engines are nigh on bulletproof from what I've read, bolt on a GT30xx turbo and 4-500hp is easily acheivable.
I'm seriously on the look out for another but this time it will be either a very late UK car turbo manual or a 2.5TT. I think you'd find it quite a different car to the MR2 as it was intended as more of a GT so not so suited to nipping round town and the like. The turbo has around 50BHP on the N/A so worth buying, they do all 'seem' to be autos but there are some manuals around.
0-60 is a round 7s and you could crack 60 in 2nd and that straight 6 sound is a joy.
The 2.5TT costs more to buy than a UK car hence the appeal of a UK car (that and there's more of them).
I'd second the above suggested forum www.mkiiisupra.net
0-60 is a round 7s and you could crack 60 in 2nd and that straight 6 sound is a joy.
The 2.5TT costs more to buy than a UK car hence the appeal of a UK car (that and there's more of them).
I'd second the above suggested forum www.mkiiisupra.net
The JZA70 (2.5 TT) may look expensive in comparison to the MA70 (3.0 T), but you have to consider that a UK car is likely to be rusty, and the 7M-GTE's reputation for head gaskets and crank bearings isn't just a myth.
JZA70s don't turn up that often, though, so it might even be worth thinking about importing one (and, in the meantime, buying a decent auto Soarer TT , with the same engine, for peanuts).
JZA70s don't turn up that often, though, so it might even be worth thinking about importing one (and, in the meantime, buying a decent auto Soarer TT , with the same engine, for peanuts).
Edited by gareth_r on Thursday 17th December 09:05
gareth_r said:
The JZA70 (2.5 TT) may look expensive in comparison to the MA70 (3.0 T), but you have to consider that a UK car is likely to be rusty, and the 7M-GTE's reputation for head gaskets and crank bearings isn't just a myth.
JZA70s don't turn up that often, though, so it might even be worth thinking about importing one (and, in the meantime, buying a decent auto Soarer TT , with the same engine, for peanuts).
What's the cost of importing a 1JZ likely to be?JZA70s don't turn up that often, though, so it might even be worth thinking about importing one (and, in the meantime, buying a decent auto Soarer TT , with the same engine, for peanuts).
Edited by gareth_r on Thursday 17th December 09:05
Jag-D said:
gareth_r said:
The JZA70 (2.5 TT) may look expensive in comparison to the MA70 (3.0 T), but you have to consider that a UK car is likely to be rusty, and the 7M-GTE's reputation for head gaskets and crank bearings isn't just a myth.
JZA70s don't turn up that often, though, so it might even be worth thinking about importing one (and, in the meantime, buying a decent auto Soarer TT , with the same engine, for peanuts).
What's the cost of importing a 1JZ likely to be?JZA70s don't turn up that often, though, so it might even be worth thinking about importing one (and, in the meantime, buying a decent auto Soarer TT , with the same engine, for peanuts).
Edited by gareth_r on Thursday 17th December 09:05
Then you have to add shipping (£600?), duty on the cost of the car+shipping, VAT on car+shipping+duty, import agent's fees, rear fog light, MOT, speedo conversion, alarm/immobiliser.
Edited by gareth_r on Thursday 17th December 14:16
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