R35 GT-R wins second Tarmac Rally in 5 months !!
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Source: http://www.rallytasmania.com.au/2009/index.htm
Tony Quinn has taken out the Rally Tasmania tarmac rally making this the R35 GT-Rs second Tarmac Rally victory in 5 months and it's second victory since it's Tarmac Rally debut less than one year ago. He finished some 14 seconds in front of Jim Richards in his 997 GT2 which is almost the same lead that Steve Jones, the previous R35 rally victor, had over gentleman Jim when he took out the Quit Targa West back in September.
What's amazing is that Quinn's car, like Steve's, is running stock Bridgestone Re070 road tires and bone stock factory suspension. The only significant mod, aside from the mandatory roll cage, being a rather loud cat-back exhaust. Keep in mind that these cars are privately entered with no factory support from Nissan.
Rally regulations allow cars to use R-compound auto-x tires but at present none have been developed for the R35 so competitors have been using the easier to source factory rubber.
R35's have been finishing strongly in each event since it's debut at the Targa Tasmania last year where Tony Alford crashed out in his bright pink Donut King R35 GT-R. Since then Alford has posted some very good results and finished 6th outright in this Rally Tasmania event.
Tony Quinn has taken out the Rally Tasmania tarmac rally making this the R35 GT-Rs second Tarmac Rally victory in 5 months and it's second victory since it's Tarmac Rally debut less than one year ago. He finished some 14 seconds in front of Jim Richards in his 997 GT2 which is almost the same lead that Steve Jones, the previous R35 rally victor, had over gentleman Jim when he took out the Quit Targa West back in September.
What's amazing is that Quinn's car, like Steve's, is running stock Bridgestone Re070 road tires and bone stock factory suspension. The only significant mod, aside from the mandatory roll cage, being a rather loud cat-back exhaust. Keep in mind that these cars are privately entered with no factory support from Nissan.
Rally regulations allow cars to use R-compound auto-x tires but at present none have been developed for the R35 so competitors have been using the easier to source factory rubber.
R35's have been finishing strongly in each event since it's debut at the Targa Tasmania last year where Tony Alford crashed out in his bright pink Donut King R35 GT-R. Since then Alford has posted some very good results and finished 6th outright in this Rally Tasmania event.
No mention of the rallies it didn't win though...
Tony Quinn came 5th in Targa NZ in the same R35 behind two Imprezas, a 911 GT3 and an R34 GTR.
Still a fairly impressive drive but doesn't have the same 'tabloid headline' feel to it that the R35 GTR fan club seem to like.
Tony Quinn came 5th in Targa NZ in the same R35 behind two Imprezas, a 911 GT3 and an R34 GTR.
Still a fairly impressive drive but doesn't have the same 'tabloid headline' feel to it that the R35 GTR fan club seem to like.
Edited by GravelBen on Sunday 15th February 20:59
GravelBen said:
No mention of the rallies it didn't win though...
Tony Quinn came 5th in Targa NZ in the same R35 behind two Imprezas, a 911 GT3 and an R34 GTR.
Still a fairly impressive drive but doesn't have the same 'tabloid headline' feel to it that the R35 GTR fan club seem to like.
Tony Quinn came 5th in Targa NZ in the same R35 behind two Imprezas, a 911 GT3 and an R34 GTR.
Still a fairly impressive drive but doesn't have the same 'tabloid headline' feel to it that the R35 GTR fan club seem to like.
Edited by GravelBen on Sunday 15th February 20:59
GravelBen said:
No mention of the rallies it didn't win though...
Tony Quinn came 5th in Targa NZ in the same R35 behind two Imprezas, a 911 GT3 and an R34 GTR.
Still a fairly impressive drive but doesn't have the same 'tabloid headline' feel to it that the R35 GTR fan club seem to like.
Targa NZ was Quinn's first drive in the R35 and he was more than hesitant considering the car was driving on showroom tires with showroom suspension.Tony Quinn came 5th in Targa NZ in the same R35 behind two Imprezas, a 911 GT3 and an R34 GTR.
Still a fairly impressive drive but doesn't have the same 'tabloid headline' feel to it that the R35 GTR fan club seem to like.
Edited by GravelBen on Sunday 15th February 20:59
Every single car you mention that finished in front of him in NZ has had extensive Targa development over several years and all are running custom competition spec adjustable shocks and either Hoosier, V700 or Sport Cup shaved autocross R-compounds that are consumed within a few stages.
Quinn went on to come second in his next rally, Targa Wrest Point, using the same set of tires that he used in NZ. He has two complete sets, one Bridgestone and one Dunlop and shares the wear across both.
He then used the EXACT SAME two tire sets (now considerably worn) AGAIN to win Rally Tasmania and finish in front of competitors that are replacing fresh sets of R-compounds at each event. This means he has run three tarmac rallies across two countries on just two sets of RUN-FLAT showroom road tires!
Given the relentless bashing the GT-R gets for supposedly not being as fast as Nissan claims, for being too heavy, for supposedly being too fragile and somewhat over-hyped this result has done nothing less than solidify the GT-R's position as a reliable, consistent, high performance weapon right from the showroom floor.
Don't worry, Targa Tasmania is coming up in April and Quinn will be entering the car yet again. Hopefully with some new tires.
Edited by gp900bj on Monday 16th February 10:54
gp900bj said:
GravelBen said:
No mention of the rallies it didn't win though...
Tony Quinn came 5th in Targa NZ in the same R35 behind two Imprezas, a 911 GT3 and an R34 GTR.
Still a fairly impressive drive but doesn't have the same 'tabloid headline' feel to it that the R35 GTR fan club seem to like.
Targa NZ was Quinn's first drive in the R35 and he was more than hesitant considering the car was driving on showroom tires with showroom suspension.Tony Quinn came 5th in Targa NZ in the same R35 behind two Imprezas, a 911 GT3 and an R34 GTR.
Still a fairly impressive drive but doesn't have the same 'tabloid headline' feel to it that the R35 GTR fan club seem to like.
Edited by GravelBen on Sunday 15th February 20:59
Every single car you mention that finished in front of him in NZ has had extensive Targa development over several years and all are running custom competition spec adjustable shocks and either Hoosier, V700 or Sport Cup shaved autocross R-compounds that are consumed within a few stages.
Quinn went on to come second in his next rally, Targa Wrest Point, using the same set of tires that he used in NZ. He has two complete sets, one Bridgestone and one Dunlop and shares the wear across both.
He then used the EXACT SAME two tire sets (now considerably worn) AGAIN to win Rally Tasmania and finish in front of competitors that are replacing fresh sets of R-compounds at each event. This means he has run three tarmac rallies across two countries on just two sets of showroom road tires!
Given the relentless bashing the GT-R gets for supposedly not being as fast as Nissan claims, for being too heavy, for supposedly being too fragile and somewhat over-hyped this result has done nothing less than solidify the GT-R's position as a reliable, consistent, high performance weapon right from the showroom floor.
Don't worry, Targa Tasmania is coming up in April and Quinn will be entering the car yet again. Hopefully with some new tires.
As for tires being worn, if they were seriously worn he wouldn't have used them as they wouldn't be competitive, so that's a moot point.
Silent1 said:
gp900bj said:
GravelBen said:
No mention of the rallies it didn't win though...
Tony Quinn came 5th in Targa NZ in the same R35 behind two Imprezas, a 911 GT3 and an R34 GTR.
Still a fairly impressive drive but doesn't have the same 'tabloid headline' feel to it that the R35 GTR fan club seem to like.
Targa NZ was Quinn's first drive in the R35 and he was more than hesitant considering the car was driving on showroom tires with showroom suspension.Tony Quinn came 5th in Targa NZ in the same R35 behind two Imprezas, a 911 GT3 and an R34 GTR.
Still a fairly impressive drive but doesn't have the same 'tabloid headline' feel to it that the R35 GTR fan club seem to like.
Edited by GravelBen on Sunday 15th February 20:59
Every single car you mention that finished in front of him in NZ has had extensive Targa development over several years and all are running custom competition spec adjustable shocks and either Hoosier, V700 or Sport Cup shaved autocross R-compounds that are consumed within a few stages.
Quinn went on to come second in his next rally, Targa Wrest Point, using the same set of tires that he used in NZ. He has two complete sets, one Bridgestone and one Dunlop and shares the wear across both.
He then used the EXACT SAME two tire sets (now considerably worn) AGAIN to win Rally Tasmania and finish in front of competitors that are replacing fresh sets of R-compounds at each event. This means he has run three tarmac rallies across two countries on just two sets of showroom road tires!
Given the relentless bashing the GT-R gets for supposedly not being as fast as Nissan claims, for being too heavy, for supposedly being too fragile and somewhat over-hyped this result has done nothing less than solidify the GT-R's position as a reliable, consistent, high performance weapon right from the showroom floor.
Don't worry, Targa Tasmania is coming up in April and Quinn will be entering the car yet again. Hopefully with some new tires.
As for tires being worn, if they were seriously worn he wouldn't have used them as they wouldn't be competitive, so that's a moot point.
That point seems to have floated right over your head in you eagerness to come back with a reply.
Countless thousands of people have "not won" tarmac rallies. None have been able to compete at anywhere near this level using a showroom spec car.
Please try to understand this.
gp900bj said:
Silent1 said:
gp900bj said:
GravelBen said:
No mention of the rallies it didn't win though...
Tony Quinn came 5th in Targa NZ in the same R35 behind two Imprezas, a 911 GT3 and an R34 GTR.
Still a fairly impressive drive but doesn't have the same 'tabloid headline' feel to it that the R35 GTR fan club seem to like.
Targa NZ was Quinn's first drive in the R35 and he was more than hesitant considering the car was driving on showroom tires with showroom suspension.Tony Quinn came 5th in Targa NZ in the same R35 behind two Imprezas, a 911 GT3 and an R34 GTR.
Still a fairly impressive drive but doesn't have the same 'tabloid headline' feel to it that the R35 GTR fan club seem to like.
Edited by GravelBen on Sunday 15th February 20:59
Every single car you mention that finished in front of him in NZ has had extensive Targa development over several years and all are running custom competition spec adjustable shocks and either Hoosier, V700 or Sport Cup shaved autocross R-compounds that are consumed within a few stages.
Quinn went on to come second in his next rally, Targa Wrest Point, using the same set of tires that he used in NZ. He has two complete sets, one Bridgestone and one Dunlop and shares the wear across both.
He then used the EXACT SAME two tire sets (now considerably worn) AGAIN to win Rally Tasmania and finish in front of competitors that are replacing fresh sets of R-compounds at each event. This means he has run three tarmac rallies across two countries on just two sets of showroom road tires!
Given the relentless bashing the GT-R gets for supposedly not being as fast as Nissan claims, for being too heavy, for supposedly being too fragile and somewhat over-hyped this result has done nothing less than solidify the GT-R's position as a reliable, consistent, high performance weapon right from the showroom floor.
Don't worry, Targa Tasmania is coming up in April and Quinn will be entering the car yet again. Hopefully with some new tires.
As for tires being worn, if they were seriously worn he wouldn't have used them as they wouldn't be competitive, so that's a moot point.
That point seems to have floated right over your head in you eagerness to come back with a reply.
Countless thousands of people have "not won" tarmac rallies. None have been able to compete at anywhere near this level using a showroom spec car.
Please try to understand this.
I'm just pointing out he hasn't won everything, something you appear to now have sand in your vagina over.
gp900bj said:
Every single car you mention that finished in front of him in NZ has had extensive Targa development over several years
Well thats b0ll0x for a start, Richard Mason (who won) had never done a serious Tarmac rally before, and iirc they only had 2 weeks to convert his Impreza from Group N gravel spec to Targa spec after the last NZRC round of the season. Emma Gilmour's Impreza is also an NZRC Group N car, and she took a different sponsor as co-driver for each of the 5 days! As far as Im aware the main changes they make for Targa are removing the Group N turbo restrictor (would be <300bhp otherwise).Gavin Richie has done Targa a couple of times, but his 911 GT3 RS is still pretty close to factory spec.
In fact the only one of those cars that really has 'had extensive Targa development over several years' was the R34 GTR of many-times Targa winner Joe McAndrew.
I may be wrong, but I also believe that in Targa NZ competitors are allowed a maximum of six tyres to cover the entire event, after which they begine to incur time penalties (something which proved very costly to McAndrew IIRC). What Targa NZ did prove is that being competitive is every bit as much about balls (or whatever Emma Gilmour's equivalent is 
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