Evo tyres opinions please

[A.G.]

The initial message was deleted from this topic on 06 December 2018 at 21:54

[JollyGrnMonster]

just about to put some Toyo R888 on my evo6..

[Vixpy1]

JollyGrnMonster said:

just about to put some Toyo R888 on my evo6..

Well, every little bit of grip helps eh Simon.




especially round brands

[JollyGrnMonster]

hey at least my Subaru is on the road for longer than yours

[Vixpy1]

Its been back on the road for 2 years now!



Well, parked anyway

[youngsyr]

A.G. said:

Two of the current Dunlops are not far off needing replacement TBH and today I have noticed a nail in one of the others so I might as well get a new set of 4 for the Summer. What's the current consensus these days for an Evo VII.

I've hadthe following on my VIII:

Yoko A046
Yoko A048
Michelin Primacy HP
Falken ZE912
Goodyear F1 Asymmetrics XL

Out of them I rate the Asymmetrics the best all round fast road tyre in terms of road noise, dry and wet grip, longevity and price. The Falkens were a good budget option as well.

I've also heard several people slate the Toyo T1-Rs for having too soft a tyre wall for aggressive driving.

[Marf]

A.G. said:

Out of interest, if I were to go for R888s, would it be anything like a practical proposition to keep them on the car for road use between track days or would they get wrecked after very little mileage.

I have driven on them on the roads before in the wet and have no issues with that but have no idea of how long they are likely to last compared to say T1Rs. Can anyone give us a clue?

About ten minutes. But seriously I used Yoko semi slicks(48R and 32R) on my Charade Turbo on the road for about a year, a set of fronts would last be between 2500-3500 miles depending on the compound and how hard I drove the car, the rears would last about twice that. On a car like an Evo I cant see you getting more than 2500 miles out of all four.

[youngsyr]

Marf said:

A.G. said:

Out of interest, if I were to go for R888s, would it be anything like a practical proposition to keep them on the car for road use between track days or would they get wrecked after very little mileage.

I have driven on them on the roads before in the wet and have no issues with that but have no idea of how long they are likely to last compared to say T1Rs. Can anyone give us a clue?

About ten minutes. But seriously I used Yoko semi slicks(48R and 32R) on my Charade Turbo on the road for about a year, a set of fronts would last be between 2500-3500 miles depending on the compound and how hard I drove the car, the rears would last about twice that. On a car like an Evo I cant see you getting more than 2500 miles out of all four.

Obviously it depends how you drive on them, but I believe people have had up to 4,000 miles out of a set of R888s on their Evos and a lot of people put them on and keep them on for the summer/trackday season.

I believe they do tend to be a little too soft for prolonged summer track use on Evos though, with a tendency to go off quite quickly. I believe the A048s are better in this respect, and I certainly found them to be a great track tyre.

The other thing to consider is road noise. The A048s droned like mad when I had them on the motorway (they were silent on track).

[Marf]

youngsyr said:

Obviously it depends how you drive on them, but I believe people have had up to 4,000 miles out of a set of R888s on their Evos and a lot of people put them on and keep them on for the summer/trackday season.

Thats pretty good going, what are the compounds like in comparison to the yokies?

youngsyr said:

The other thing to consider is road noise. The A048s droned like mad when I had them on the motorway (they were silent on track).

Very true, they were bloody noisy tires when cruising, I could hear them easily over my straight through stainless exhaust, worth it thought, the grip they offered was nothing short of awesome.

Edited by Marf on Thursday 30th April 11:21

[flatfour1]

Bridgestone Potenza RE070 on my scooby. They cost me 450 quid fitted, I had 25000 miles from the original set(some vigorous driving but no track use)and despite the looks of them, which i really like, they seem to stick like merde to a blanket in all sorts of conditions.

[youngsyr]

Marf said:

youngsyr said:

Obviously it depends how you drive on them, but I believe people have had up to 4,000 miles out of a set of R888s on their Evos and a lot of people put them on and keep them on for the summer/trackday season.

Thats pretty good going, what are the compounds like in comparison to the yokies?

I believe the R888s are softer than the A048s (which come in medium and medium hard, I used medium hard).

Marf said:

youngsyr said:

The other thing to consider is road noise. The A048s droned like mad when I had them on the motorway (they were silent on track).

Very true, they were bloody noisy tires when cruising, I could hear them easily over my straight through stainless exhaust, worth it thought, the grip they offered was nothing short of awesome.

Agreed, the A048s are a huge step in grip terms from the A046 and all of the other non semi-slick tyres I've used.

Not sure I could live with them as my road tyre all year round though. I currently have two sets of wheels, one with Goodyear F1 Asymmetrics on and the other with the A048s on.

[Marf]

youngsyr said:

Not sure I could live with them as my road tyre all year round though.

Before fitting them I was concerned about their wet performance, but overall was pleasently surprised, they were pretty good in all but standing water.

That said Yoko did issue an advisory that the tyres should not be used in temperatures lower than freezing and should be stored inside when its that cold as the rubber can crack and degrade.

[youngsyr]

Marf said:

youngsyr said:

Not sure I could live with them as my road tyre all year round though.

Before fitting them I was concerned about their wet performance, but overall was pleasently surprised, they were pretty good in all but standing water.

That said Yoko did issue an advisory that the tyres should not be used in temperatures lower than freezing and should be stored inside when its that cold as the rubber can crack and degrade.

It's not just the wet performance that bothers me, but the noise, longevity and cost.

I simply won't use even 75% of the performance of semi-slicks for 75% of the time they're on the car, so I don't see the point in putting up with the noise and cost of running them unless I'm on the track.

Plus you get more "value" out of the tyres when you move from road tyres to semi-slicks as you're not used to the performance.

[GravelBen]

flatfour1 said:

Bridgestone Potenza RE070 on my scooby. They cost me 450 quid fitted, I had 25000 miles from the original set(some vigorous driving but no track use)and despite the looks of them, which i really like, they seem to stick like merde to a blanket in all sorts of conditions.

Factory fit for STIs in some markets, presumably for a reason.

I've been very impressed by the Eagle F1's (not asymmetrics) on the Leacy but not tried most of the other l to really compare.

[budd]

Yoko / Toyo semi slicks are great tyres but not without drawbacks, as mentioned cost, wear rate , road noise, questionable cold/wet weather grip etc all conspire to make them less than perfect for everyday driving. As an alternative look at the Hankook RS2, it's a B list race tyre(like the toyo and Yoko) but as a less extreme tread pattern then the so it works better in the wet, it's still louder than a normal road tyre due to the stiffer side wall but it's possible to use this tyre on a daily driver without major issues, the best bit is the price, Camskill have them on special offer and they work out at less then half the price of Toyo R888s and around a third of the price of Yokos.
well worth a look.

[rsv gone!]

Yep, what Young said. I found the T1Rs too soft on the sidewalls.

I now have the Asymetrics on and I'm very impressed (once you get over the initial run-in period).

Edited by rsv gone! on Friday 1st May 21:57

[craig2003]

I had several sets of the 888's on my VII and IV and found them faultless, even the missus used the car without worry through the winter included

[Munter]

craig2003 said:

I had several sets of the 888's on my VII and IV and found them faultless, even the missus used the car without worry through the winter included

I'm sure you and a number of other people have found the Toyo to survive the Winter ok. However Toyo advise against getting them cold. Never mind using them in the cold. As apparently they can crack...

http://marktg.toyotires.com/file/TireStorage.pdf