330e and service history
Discussion
I'm looking for a used 330e (2020-2022).
Most of them seem to have been fleet owned and have done big miles each year. This means that most of them have only been serviced every 20 to 22,000 miles.
As someone with lots of mechanical sympathy, this scares me.
Should I be concerned about this? Anyone with experience of these?
I saw one yesterday with 78,000 miles that ticked all the boxes apart from the long service intervals and a ticking/rattling at cold idle. (Chain? Wastegate?)
Any help appreciated as I think these cars are a great package but I don't want to get burned
Most of them seem to have been fleet owned and have done big miles each year. This means that most of them have only been serviced every 20 to 22,000 miles.
As someone with lots of mechanical sympathy, this scares me.
Should I be concerned about this? Anyone with experience of these?
I saw one yesterday with 78,000 miles that ticked all the boxes apart from the long service intervals and a ticking/rattling at cold idle. (Chain? Wastegate?)
Any help appreciated as I think these cars are a great package but I don't want to get burned
Interesting dilemma, I was half considering 530e similar to your used fleet purchase, thoughts
Battery is an unknown, some seem to last others have very limited range. Did see somewhere a hybrid battery is cycled so many times Vs an EV battery their lifespan is limited.
Modern BMW engines are so good, as it's been fully warm eating easy motorway miles in a long 8th gear and modern oils etc I suspect it will be fine for 150k plus. I'm currently 520d and at 150k the engine is only half way thru it's life
Others will say run for the hills
As it is I'm skipping hybrid and going full EV as they're so cheap used. Liked a comment on other thread that a hybrid is a gateway drug to a full EV
Good luck, last thought is you can map the petrol to 300 bhp so with hybrid on top it could be mega quick!!!
Battery is an unknown, some seem to last others have very limited range. Did see somewhere a hybrid battery is cycled so many times Vs an EV battery their lifespan is limited.
Modern BMW engines are so good, as it's been fully warm eating easy motorway miles in a long 8th gear and modern oils etc I suspect it will be fine for 150k plus. I'm currently 520d and at 150k the engine is only half way thru it's life
Others will say run for the hills
As it is I'm skipping hybrid and going full EV as they're so cheap used. Liked a comment on other thread that a hybrid is a gateway drug to a full EV
Good luck, last thought is you can map the petrol to 300 bhp so with hybrid on top it could be mega quick!!!
Thanks for the advice!
Yeah the company selling it say the battery is at 95% health according to their "check".
Yeah there's very little in the way of negative comments in terms of reliablity for 330e to be honest so maybe I just take the plunge on one with the thought that they are designed for this use!
Yeah the company selling it say the battery is at 95% health according to their "check".
Yeah there's very little in the way of negative comments in terms of reliablity for 330e to be honest so maybe I just take the plunge on one with the thought that they are designed for this use!
Yes be very concerned. 20k miles between oil changes kills engines slowly.
That ticking at cold idle on the one you saw is a red flag. Walk away.
Fleet owned + long intervals = worn timing chain guides, carbon buildup, and possible turbo wear.
If you really want a 330e, find a privately owned one with max 12k mile oil changes. They exist but rare. Otherwise look at a different car.
That ticking at cold idle on the one you saw is a red flag. Walk away.
Fleet owned + long intervals = worn timing chain guides, carbon buildup, and possible turbo wear.
If you really want a 330e, find a privately owned one with max 12k mile oil changes. They exist but rare. Otherwise look at a different car.
I’m interested in a G21. The cars generally within my budget are 330e’s, there’s some diesels as well. My concern is timing chain on either variants with the cost of replacement being high.
My current car is an Alfa Giulia 2.2 diesel, which I bought at 100,000 miles and it’s now on 161,000, it came with good history and has been very reliable. The Alfa is also belt driven which costs around £600 to replace, which I can live with.
I’m very concerned about ending up with a huge bill on the BMW.
Alfa don’t do a wagon anymore, I’m not over keen on an SUV and like the Alfa the BMW is RWD with XF8, which I love.
My current car is an Alfa Giulia 2.2 diesel, which I bought at 100,000 miles and it’s now on 161,000, it came with good history and has been very reliable. The Alfa is also belt driven which costs around £600 to replace, which I can live with.
I’m very concerned about ending up with a huge bill on the BMW.
Alfa don’t do a wagon anymore, I’m not over keen on an SUV and like the Alfa the BMW is RWD with XF8, which I love.
I had one of these fleet 330e.
They run a condition based service schedule. Mine flagged at 18k. Serviced every 9 months.
I don’t think you will get one that will be serviced more than the bmw schedule as I doubt any were sold to private enthusiasts who are diligent in servicing. They were a bik tool and nothing else and the lease company certainly wouldn’t pay for extra services.
They run a condition based service schedule. Mine flagged at 18k. Serviced every 9 months.
I don’t think you will get one that will be serviced more than the bmw schedule as I doubt any were sold to private enthusiasts who are diligent in servicing. They were a bik tool and nothing else and the lease company certainly wouldn’t pay for extra services.
Yeah it's a tough one on these. Such great packages just a shame a lot have been treated this way.
The condition based servicing is all well and good, but is there a way of knowing if they've been serviced when the car wants, or they've left it with yhe service light on for 6,000 miles?!
I will hold out for one with a better service history!
The condition based servicing is all well and good, but is there a way of knowing if they've been serviced when the car wants, or they've left it with yhe service light on for 6,000 miles?!
I will hold out for one with a better service history!
willmagrath said:
Yeah it's a tough one on these. Such great packages just a shame a lot have been treated this way.
The condition based servicing is all well and good, but is there a way of knowing if they've been serviced when the car wants, or they've left it with yhe service light on for 6,000 miles?!
I will hold out for one with a better service history!
The idrive will show the service being late. If it’s yellow it’s been done slightly late but if it’s red it was done very late.The condition based servicing is all well and good, but is there a way of knowing if they've been serviced when the car wants, or they've left it with yhe service light on for 6,000 miles?!
I will hold out for one with a better service history!
willmagrath said:
Yeah it's a tough one on these. Such great packages just a shame a lot have been treated this way.
The condition based servicing is all well and good, but is there a way of knowing if they've been serviced when the car wants, or they've left it with yhe service light on for 6,000 miles?!
I will hold out for one with a better service history!
You want a better service history than a full BMW service history? You'll be waiting a long time especially if you want a car that was almost entirely purchased new by fleets - private buyers generally went for a 330i or a 320i.The condition based servicing is all well and good, but is there a way of knowing if they've been serviced when the car wants, or they've left it with yhe service light on for 6,000 miles?!
I will hold out for one with a better service history!
Fox- said:
You want a better service history than a full BMW service history? You'll be waiting a long time especially if you want a car that was almost entirely purchased new by fleets - private buyers generally went for a 330i or a 320i.
Well, I'd be happy if it's been serviced according to it's condition based monitoring (even if it's every 20k miles). But not if it's missed it's schedule. Will see what I can find and in waiting for the dealer to contact regarding the issues this one had.
v8notbrave said:
Battery is an unknown, some seem to last others have very limited range. Did see somewhere a hybrid battery is cycled so many times Vs an EV battery their lifespan is limited.
As it is I'm skipping hybrid and going full EV as they're so cheap used. Liked a comment on other thread that a hybrid is a gateway drug to a full EV
Re the hybrid battery, would getting the seller to charge it to full then seeing what range it displays give you an indication of the health? Genuine question! I suppose using an OBD or other way of accessing the battery health info might be a smarter idea. Maybe it tells you like in the I3 (I think)?As it is I'm skipping hybrid and going full EV as they're so cheap used. Liked a comment on other thread that a hybrid is a gateway drug to a full EV
Re cycling - don't hybrids get more cycles BUT they're partial cycles so not as bad? The battery might feel more restrictive because older hybrids generally have a shorter range so you'll really notice it when it's down to 80% life vs an EV that had 300 miles and now has 240 miles. Again, more questions than statements as I'm still trying to figure things out.
Dunno about hybrid being the gateway drug. For my use, hybrid seems the best option. 2 hours for a 29 mile charge for a city drive, 5 minutes for a 400 mile charge (petrol!) for a country drive. No need to remember to plug in overnight.
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