2026 Nürburgring Training

[Kawasicki]

Not much to say, other than I just booked two days Nürburgring motorbike training , for the end of July. will use my old Ducati 999. I‘m pretty excited about it, Target is 1000km of fun, and avoid hospital!

[hiccy18]

Id love to do that, pretty envious. I take it the slots book up fast since the bike ban?

[black-k1]

I hope you have a great time.

[Kawasicki]

hiccy18 said:

Id love to do that, pretty envious. I take it the slots book up fast since the bike ban?

I have no idea, though I can also imagine they will have an uptick in business since the bike ban.

[Kawasicki]

black-k1 said:

I hope you have a great time.

Thanks!

[NITO]

Awesome! Who do you book this through. I had a quick look on website but couldn't find much.

[doogalman]

There are two businesses offering the training courses. The Doc Scholl ones are better suited for brits as they run a few group coached by brits. Dale Lomas, Andy Carlile + a couple of others are the Brit coaches.

https://www.doc-scholl.de/events/nordschleife.html

https://event.motorpresse.de/motorrad/trainings/

[Birky_41]

I reckon you'll love this. It's a daunting place. I've only done a dozen laps until they banned bikes

If you can and it's open, try the GP circuit. That's incredible

[Kawasicki]

Birky_41 said:

I reckon you'll love this. It's a daunting place. I've only done a dozen laps until they banned bikes

If you can and it's open, try the GP circuit. That's incredible

Cheers! I know the track in cars, I have worked there for decades, and also did a little endurance racing there. I’m not a fan of the GP circuit, at least not in comparison to the old track. In cars the wilder and scarier the track, or road, the better. The GP circuit just feels like a sanitised experience to me.

I can drive pretty well, but I am not a skilled rider. Hence the training! I’ll never be good, but that fact won’t stop me trying, trying a lot.

[AKjr]

Birky_41 said:

I reckon you'll love this. It's a daunting place. I've only done a dozen laps until they banned bikes

If you can and it's open, try the GP circuit. That's incredible

I did around a dozen laps also, during mixed/tourist drive days. It was really sketchy and bikers being banned was not a surprise to me; I'm not a shrinking violet, more though stupidity rather than experience tbh, but still......

I actually fell off, but only due to my ineptitude, rather than it being a mixed tourist drive day, It had been raining and I had not considered how slippy the track might be - down I went!

Anyways, on a bike only sessions I am sure that it'll be fantastic, OP! Enjoy

[Kawasicki]

AKjr said:

I did around a dozen laps also, during mixed/tourist drive days. It was really sketchy and bikers being banned was not a surprise to me; I'm not a shrinking violet, more though stupidity rather than experience tbh, but still......

I actually fell off, but only due to my ineptitude, rather than it being a mixed tourist drive day, It had been raining and I had not considered how slippy the track might be - down I went!

Anyways, on a bike only sessions I am sure that it'll be fantastic, OP! Enjoy

Thanks man. In the wet it is… sketchy! I can only imagine how digital the grip loss could be on a bike. Hope it didn’t hurt too much.

[-Cappo-]

Kawasicki said:

AKjr said:

I did around a dozen laps also, during mixed/tourist drive days. It was really sketchy and bikers being banned was not a surprise to me; I'm not a shrinking violet, more though stupidity rather than experience tbh, but still......

I actually fell off, but only due to my ineptitude, rather than it being a mixed tourist drive day, It had been raining and I had not considered how slippy the track might be - down I went!

Anyways, on a bike only sessions I am sure that it'll be fantastic, OP! Enjoy

Thanks man. In the wet it is sketchy! I can only imagine how digital the grip loss could be on a bike. Hope it didn t hurt too much.

I did the Motorrad course a few times back in the mid-noughties. There was only ever one English-speaking group back then, run by Neil Leigh.

In the mornings, each group was allocated a few miles of the circuit as their own, delineated by cones. You could ride it in either direction, walk it, sit on it, be shown all the markers, do what you like - essentially learn that sector. In the afternoon it was open lapping WITH your instructor, but as people grew tired and sat laps out, it was possible to ask the instructor to take you out and turn the wick up.

Being coached on, and then riding, some of the blind bends at high 3-figure speeds (I'm looking at you, Angstkurve/Mutkurve) was an experience I won't forget in a hurry.

Re the rain comment, one year a bunch of us went out there (on bikes) for Touristfahrten, and it was raining. Mate and I were the only two who had ridden the Nordschleife before, so we said we'd do a lap and see what it was like. Despite having done around 150 laps over a few years, that was the first, last and only time I ever did or ever would ride the 'Ring in the wet! The slightest hint of throttle, even in 4th or 5th, just lit the back wheel up. I've never tiptoed around a circuit like we did that day.

The evening drinks/meals/get-togethers could be less than compatible with riding fast bikes fast the following day, too!

[GreaseNipple]

Definitely one to tick off the list, I got some laps in last year with cars and their presence made it feel pretty damn risky at times, an empty track would make it much better but I thought at the time even empty the lack of run off and potential for you to be in a totally different part of the track that you think you are would put me off pushing like a normal trackday. Looking at the prices if you get roughly 18 laps a day vfm is actually pretty good.

[NITO]

doogalman said:

There are two businesses offering the training courses. The Doc Scholl ones are better suited for brits as they run a few group coached by brits. Dale Lomas, Andy Carlile + a couple of others are the Brit coaches.

https://www.doc-scholl.de/events/nordschleife.html

https://event.motorpresse.de/motorrad/trainings/

Thank you very much for all the info

[Kawasicki]

-Cappo- said:

I did the Motorrad course a few times back in the mid-noughties. There was only ever one English-speaking group back then, run by Neil Leigh.

In the mornings, each group was allocated a few miles of the circuit as their own, delineated by cones. You could ride it in either direction, walk it, sit on it, be shown all the markers, do what you like - essentially learn that sector. In the afternoon it was open lapping WITH your instructor, but as people grew tired and sat laps out, it was possible to ask the instructor to take you out and turn the wick up.

Being coached on, and then riding, some of the blind bends at high 3-figure speeds (I'm looking at you, Angstkurve/Mutkurve) was an experience I won't forget in a hurry.

Re the rain comment, one year a bunch of us went out there (on bikes) for Touristfahrten, and it was raining. Mate and I were the only two who had ridden the Nordschleife before, so we said we'd do a lap and see what it was like. Despite having done around 150 laps over a few years, that was the first, last and only time I ever did or ever would ride the 'Ring in the wet! The slightest hint of throttle, even in 4th or 5th, just lit the back wheel up. I've never tiptoed around a circuit like we did that day.

The evening drinks/meals/get-togethers could be less than compatible with riding fast bikes fast the following day, too!

Appreciate the comment. I’m aiming to do a lot of endurance and strength training for a few months before the event, I want to enjoy the two days.

I drove/raced (is it racing when the competition annihilates you?) an old and not very powerful BMW E30 in the wet/mud for a few hours around the Ring. I had similar experiences, wild wheel spin in fifth at close to max speed… driving in a straight line… I actually thought something had broken, as the engine just started bouncing off the rev limiter, without even the slightest jerk to signal grip loss. F me, it was on the approach to schwedenkreuz and I was nervous about whether the car would grip on turn in. It did, yay!

[TiminYorkshire]

Enjoy, it's a great place on a bike. I had many happy times and laps there.

Edited by TiminYorkshire on Saturday 13th December 08:06

[Kawasicki]

TiminYorkshire said:

Enjoy, it's a great place on a bike. I had many happy times and laps there.

Edited by TiminYorkshire on Saturday 13th December 08:06

Thanks Tim!

[AKjr]

Kawasicki said:

AKjr said:

I did around a dozen laps also, during mixed/tourist drive days. It was really sketchy and bikers being banned was not a surprise to me; I'm not a shrinking violet, more though stupidity rather than experience tbh, but still......

I actually fell off, but only due to my ineptitude, rather than it being a mixed tourist drive day, It had been raining and I had not considered how slippy the track might be - down I went!

Anyways, on a bike only sessions I am sure that it'll be fantastic, OP! Enjoy

Thanks man. In the wet it is sketchy! I can only imagine how digital the grip loss could be on a bike. Hope it didn t hurt too much.

Haha, cheers. I was only doing about 45-50mph and I slid a fair way, all fine at the time apart from being shook up and having a bruised leg and arse; I bruised like an 80 year old and turned dark purple from knee to hip. Track day insurance saved my bacon as I did just less than three grands worth of damage to the bike!

[doogalman]

As someone mentioned Neil who instructed on the Motorrad days. A heads up that he no longer does so not sure that they have an English coach now.

On the subject of wet laps on a bike, here’s a video of Andy Carlile riding a wet lap unhindered with wets. He coaches on Doc Scholl.

https://youtu.be/5sJABKM6XQQ?si=vgoHvWvVoY85bTqf

[doogalman]

If it was me I would go for Doc Scholl over Motorrad action as all the brits that coach there have way more Nürburgring experience than any of the German instructors that only ever used to ride on the courses.