How boring is Belgium?
How boring is Belgium?
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Linksmas

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3,212 posts

240 months

Yesterday (12:14)
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I’m travelling east in the summer and most of my route is set. My first night will be near Ghent, my second is near Paderborn.
I want to avoid motorways at all costs, but is Belgium and Holland ever anything but a sprawl of industrial estates and suburbs? I’ve half a mind to take the motorway to Cologne and then on the windy lumpy roads from there. What say you?

v8notbrave

309 posts

38 months

Yesterday (12:27)
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Watch "in Bruges" then contemplate how many 8% beers you can quaff

psi310398

10,747 posts

228 months

Yesterday (12:44)
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That would be a shame. The Ardennes and Belgian Luxembourg generally have great driving back roads and any number of roadside caravans selling some of the most excellent frites and fish.

Linksmas

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3,212 posts

240 months

Yesterday (13:40)
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The Ardennes is a 150km diversion from where I am going.

Gaz Said

13 posts

15 months

Yesterday (13:49)
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Belgium is alright.

The Semois valley, around Montherme and onto Boullion is great for motorcycling.

psi310398

10,747 posts

228 months

Yesterday (13:51)
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Linksmas said:
The Ardennes is a 150km diversion from where I am going.
Yes, and worth it IMO.

Biker9090

1,797 posts

62 months

Yesterday (16:43)
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Linksmas said:
The Ardennes is a 150km diversion from where I am going.
So well under what you can do of a summers evening?

Hugo Stiglitz

40,898 posts

236 months

Yesterday (16:56)
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Ardennes and Bruge definitely worth it

littleredrooster

6,230 posts

221 months

Yesterday (16:58)
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Belgium has the highest percentage of idiot drivers in the EU, IMO. Passed through it on two wheels & four many times and always had to have the ‘safety bubble’ sense turned up to maximum.

Dare I say - worse than the M25 even!

bimsb6

8,654 posts

246 months

Yesterday (17:39)
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littleredrooster said:
Belgium has the highest percentage of idiot drivers in the EU, IMO. Passed through it on two wheels & four many times and always had to have the safety bubble sense turned up to maximum.

Dare I say - worse than the M25 even!
Yes , awful drivers in belgium !

Hugo Stiglitz

40,898 posts

236 months

Yesterday (18:04)
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I mentioned this on another topic. Kamakaze lane changers.

One, when challenged told me to ‘go home your not welcome here’

Marquezs Stabilisers

2,315 posts

86 months

Yesterday (19:13)
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
I mentioned this on another topic. Kamakaze lane changers.

One, when challenged told me to go home your not welcome here
They are bad, but not as bad as the Dutch, who are up there with the Portuguese as Europe's worst drivers. Belgium at least has some cracking roads to compensate

Linksmas

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3,212 posts

240 months

Yesterday (19:30)
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Biker9090 said:
So well under what you can do of a summers evening?
I’m heading 500km east on that day, so no it’s not.

Plymo

1,240 posts

114 months

Yesterday (20:11)
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littleredrooster said:
Belgium has the highest percentage of idiot drivers in the EU, IMO. Passed through it on two wheels & four many times and always had to have the safety bubble sense turned up to maximum.

Dare I say - worse than the M25 even!
Yes... Last time I was in northern France, every single bit of moronic driving or WTF moments was done by Belgians!

BlackTails

3,015 posts

80 months

Yesterday (20:28)
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littleredrooster said:
Belgium has the highest percentage of idiot drivers in the EU, IMO. Passed through it on two wheels & four many times and always had to have the safety bubble sense turned up to maximum.

Dare I say - worse than the M25 even!
I’ve driven in Belgium mostly on motorways. Agree that Belgian drivers are fking terrible. And the road surfaces are awful. You drive into the Netherlands and it’s like someone hit the “mute” button.

I’ve also cycled in Belgium a bit. Rural Belgium presents as poor. And the road surfaces are equally st.

hiccy18

3,861 posts

92 months

Yesterday (22:12)
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You're passing through the wrong bit of Belgium; Wallonia is lovely, always enjoy going there. Cracking roads in the Ardennes and the local religious zealots worship the god of beer apparently. But the other bit is like Holland with poorer drivers.

Interesting titbit about Belgian driving: unlike their Chocolatiers, Belgian drivers only needed licensed since the 70's, and tests were only introduced in the 90's.

Michael_B

1,707 posts

125 months

Yesterday (22:15)
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There is an old joke in France that if you fail your driving test three times, you get a special number plate with red numbers and letters on a white background wink

moto_traxport

4,255 posts

246 months

hiccy18 said:
You're passing through the wrong bit of Belgium; Wallonia is lovely, always enjoy going there. Cracking roads in the Ardennes and the local religious zealots worship the god of beer apparently.
I'm just back from that bit of Begium a fortnight ago in a campervan this time reminiscing about bike trips with mates in the past. Started in Germany, into Luxembourg and the contrast in road surfaces is stark when heading over border into Belgium. Most would ruin the fun on a sportsbike and a fair proportion make you concentrate on a GS!

Linksmas

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3,212 posts

240 months

hiccy18 said:
You're passing through the wrong bit of Belgium; Wallonia is lovely, always enjoy going there. Cracking roads in the Ardennes and the local religious zealots worship the god of beer apparently. But the other bit is like Holland with poorer drivers.
That’s kind of what I thought, if there isn’t anything great in Belgium and Holland there I’ve got nothing to lose going 3 hours on the motorway to get to the good German roads faster.

hyper jay

712 posts

180 months

Ypres is beautiful, last Post at the Menin gate , beautiful town and historic