all bikers read this thread from a porsche site
all bikers read this thread from a porsche site
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steve f

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619 posts

257 months

Wednesday 24th August 2005
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http://www.911uk.com/forum/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=12&TopicID=4469&PagePosition=1&ThreadP

S2rr Kitty

11,876 posts

274 months

Wednesday 24th August 2005
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And?

steve f

Original Poster:

619 posts

257 months

Wednesday 24th August 2005
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S2rr Kitty said:
And?


I THINK THE TOPIC OF THE THREAD IS VERY UNSUTIABLE AND OFFENSIVE

S2rr Kitty

11,876 posts

274 months

Wednesday 24th August 2005
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You won't change anything - this sort of thing gets posted all the time somewhere or other.

I'm certainly not going over there to read it or get involved in a rant about it.

steve f

Original Poster:

619 posts

257 months

Wednesday 24th August 2005
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they have changed it now

S2rr Kitty

11,876 posts

274 months

Wednesday 24th August 2005
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Great.

DennisTheMenace

15,605 posts

291 months

Wednesday 24th August 2005
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Bless they are only stroppy cos they get stuck in thier tin box , i filter , di the chap say if he moved over to stop the bike , nah i doubt it , more and more people are doing it , risking the bikers life just because they are sat in traffic and hate to see us filter .

rsvmilly

11,288 posts

264 months

Wednesday 24th August 2005
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He probably tried to close the gap on a filtering biker so the biker left him a little coachline. (Not that he'd ever admit it)

porkus

464 posts

250 months

Wednesday 24th August 2005
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More like he didnt want to be shown up by being passed by a bike so tweaked his forward movement sideways slightly
Happens to me all the time!!

YamR1,V64motion

5,735 posts

247 months

Wednesday 24th August 2005
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thier just jelous because bikes are quicker than thier mid life crisis blandly styled Porsches i wouldnt worry about it.

slim_boy_fat

735 posts

262 months

Wednesday 24th August 2005
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Typical short sighted mince for bikers thinking they are the only people who should be allowed on the road.

If you damage a car while you are filtering passed then its your fault and you should stop and exchange insurance, if not your a stupid cnut. If you dont have insurance then you shouldnt ever be allowed on the road.

If you cant get passed a car in stationary traffic, then tuff luck get over it and wait till you can.

If someone changes lanes while you are filtering passed them and knocks you off then accept that you are probably 80% responsable.

If you have to slam on your brake becasue someone pull out a junction and couldnt read the fact that you were doing 70mph over the speed limit then accept its 100% your fault.

BTW i am a biker, its just a shame so many tts on bikes exist that piss every other road use off who have just as much right to be on the roads.

I always find its best to avoid confruntation with a car/lorry/bus.....Can't think why....



>> Edited by slim_boy_fat on Wednesday 24th August 22:09

fergus

6,430 posts

298 months

Wednesday 24th August 2005
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slim_boy_fat said:
If someone changes lanes while you are filtering passed them and knocks you off then accept that you are probably 80% responsable.

If you have to slam on your brake becasue someone pull out a junction and couldnt read the fact that you were doing 70mph over the speed limit then accept its 100% your fault.


I think you need to read the highway code and swot up on the outcome of some recent cases with respect to who is to blame when filtering. A vehicle should still check their mirrors to ensure that it is safe to execute a move.

The fact that the bike may/may not be speeding is irrelevant, I think you may find that whoever pulls out of a junction may be at risk of being done for driving w/o due car and attention.

slim_boy_fat

735 posts

262 months

Wednesday 24th August 2005
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fergus said:

slim_boy_fat said:
If someone changes lanes while you are filtering passed them and knocks you off then accept that you are probably 80% responsable.

If you have to slam on your brake becasue someone pull out a junction and couldnt read the fact that you were doing 70mph over the speed limit then accept its 100% your fault.



I think you need to read the highway code and swot up on the outcome of some recent cases with respect to who is to blame when filtering. A vehicle should still check their mirrors to ensure that it is safe to execute a move.

The fact that the bike may/may not be speeding is irrelevant, I think you may find that whoever pulls out of a junction may be at risk of being done for driving w/o due car and attention.


Spoken like a true biker who doesn’t want to face up to his responsibilities to other road users.

Try again.

fergus

6,430 posts

298 months

Wednesday 24th August 2005
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slim_boy_fat said:

fergus said:


slim_boy_fat said:
If someone changes lanes while you are filtering passed them and knocks you off then accept that you are probably 80% responsable.

If you have to slam on your brake becasue someone pull out a junction and couldnt read the fact that you were doing 70mph over the speed limit then accept its 100% your fault.




I think you need to read the highway code and swot up on the outcome of some recent cases with respect to who is to blame when filtering. A vehicle should still check their mirrors to ensure that it is safe to execute a move.

The fact that the bike may/may not be speeding is irrelevant, I think you may find that whoever pulls out of a junction may be at risk of being done for driving w/o due car and attention.



Spoken like a true biker who doesn’t want to face up to his responsibilities to other road users.

Try again.


I don't ride on the road anymore mate. Haven't done for 4 years, just trackdays and racing

Rawwr

22,722 posts

257 months

Wednesday 24th August 2005
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slim_boy_fat said:

Spoken like a true biker who doesn’t want to face up to his responsibilities to other road users.

Try again.


I'm not a biker. You're wrong on both counts.

pesty

42,655 posts

279 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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slim_boy_fat said:
Typical short sighted mince for bikers thinking they are the only people who should be allowed on the road.

If you damage a car while you are filtering passed then its your fault and you should stop and exchange insurance, if not your a stupid cnut. If you dont have insurance then you shouldnt ever be allowed on the road.

If you cant get passed a car in stationary traffic, then tuff luck get over it and wait till you can.

If someone changes lanes while you are filtering passed them and knocks you off then accept that you are probably 80% responsable.

If you have to slam on your brake becasue someone pull out a junction and couldnt read the fact that you were doing 70mph over the speed limit then accept its 100% your fault.

BTW i am a biker, its just a shame so many tts on bikes exist that piss every other road use off who have just as much right to be on the roads.

I always find its best to avoid confruntation with a car/lorry/bus.....Can't think why....



>> Edited by slim_boy_fat on Wednesday 24th August 22:09


Could you please stop riding your motorbike. Its a shame but there are far too many s like you that exist and give the rest of us a bad name.

Asshat!



fergus

6,430 posts

298 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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pesty said:

slim_boy_fat said:
a load of waffle



Could you please stop riding your motorbike. Its a shame but there are far too many s like you that exist and give the rest of us a bad name.

Asshat!


like yer style Phil. Well said!

PS slimboyfat, get a proper porsche - a 911!

Vitesse39

731 posts

271 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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slim_boy_fat said:
If you damage a car while you are filtering passed then its your fault and you should stop and exchange insurance,

Agreed
slim_boy_fat said:
If you dont have insurance then you shouldnt ever be allowed on the road.


If you dont have insurance then your not allowed on the road.

slim_boy_fat said:
If someone changes lanes while you are filtering passed them and knocks you off then accept that you are probably 80% responsable.


Afraid not - Highway code/Driving Standards Agency tells us MSM (mirror, Signal, Manouver) before we begin a manouver and of course if you are checking your mirrors as offten as you should you would know the bike was approaching anyway. In this case wisely or not the bike was allread performing a monouver, the car is yet to do so, so the ownuse is on him to act apropriately to the situation as it is at that time.


slim_boy_fat said:
If you have to slam on your brake becasue someone pull out a junction and couldnt read the fact that you were doing 70mph over the speed limit then accept its 100% your fault.


Afraid not - Highway code/Driving Standards Agency tells us, look right, look left, then right again. It then goes on to tell us to pay particular attention to bikes (motor and push) as they are harder to see.
In your scenario the bike is only guilty of speeding, (which is something no Porsche owner does).
Is it OK for a car to pull out infront of another car do 70mph over, and it be the fault of the driver going passed the junction?


slim_boy_fat said:

I always find its best to avoid confruntation with a car/lorry/bus


I whole heartedly agree with you, it's just as important as knowing your Highway code/Driving Standards Agency teachings.


Sorry to go on guys, I'm not saying I have always been perfect, but as a training Driving Instructor, driving properly is what I do.


fergus

6,430 posts

298 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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cheers vitesse, puts a bit more colour around what I was saying!

S2rr Kitty

11,876 posts

274 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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I just can't see why you all fall for this provocative wind up stuff & bother to answer. It's sooooo *yawn* tedious!

It doesn't even warrant a response & I've given it too much of my attention already... I'm outta here.... I'd rather talk about Golf or Wasps or Football or other pointless things.