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Or, and I say this as a biker, selfish biker can't be arsed waiting till a safe legal overtake of cyclist is avalaible, crosses white line and causes other traffic to have to avoid him.
I must admit if I see a cyclist coming the other way with traffic behind them I always move over a bit cos I'm half expecting eejit car drivers to overtake cos " well there's room anyway" and force me off my line.
But totally agree in it ain't really news and happens a lot more than it should.
I must admit if I see a cyclist coming the other way with traffic behind them I always move over a bit cos I'm half expecting eejit car drivers to overtake cos " well there's room anyway" and force me off my line.
But totally agree in it ain't really news and happens a lot more than it should.
Opapayer said:
In summary, motorbike gives cyclist appropriate space whilst overtaking, oncoming driver panics and swerves left into space that was there to be used all the time.
Hold the front page for this.
WHAT....Hold the front page for this.
In summary.
"Appropriate space".....Highway code....leave at least 1.5 metres when overtaking cyclists at speeds of up to 30mph, and give them more space when overtaking at higher speeds.
Thats the first one for you. The road was 6M wide....... (Roads have to be a min of 5.5M to have a line down the middle).
ie 3M either side. 30 mph limit.
"Oncoming drive panics" I did?? Quite an imagination youve got there.
"Swerves to the left into space that was there to be used all the time!" I was in a car. What space? It was a 2 lane highway. 6M wide, 3M either side.
Think YOU need to read the Highway code matey.
Pistonheads 2026.
DSMSMR said:
Opapayer said:
In summary, motorbike gives cyclist appropriate space whilst overtaking, oncoming driver panics and swerves left into space that was there to be used all the time.
Hold the front page for this.
WHAT....Hold the front page for this.
In summary.
"Appropriate space".....Highway code....leave at least 1.5 metres when overtaking cyclists at speeds of up to 30mph, and give them more space when overtaking at higher speeds.
Thats the first one for you. The road was 6M wide....... (Roads have to be a min of 5.5M to have a line down the middle).
ie 3M either side. 30 mph limit.
"Oncoming drive panics" I did?? Quite an imagination youve got there.
"Swerves to the left into space that was there to be used all the time!" I was in a car. What space? It was a 2 lane highway. 6M wide, 3M either side.
Think YOU need to read the Highway code matey.
Pistonheads 2026.
Pistonheads 2026
DSMSMR said:
WHAT....
In summary.
"Appropriate space".....Highway code....leave at least 1.5 metres when overtaking cyclists at speeds of up to 30mph, and give them more space when overtaking at higher speeds.
Thats the first one for you. The road was 6M wide....... (Roads have to be a min of 5.5M to have a line down the middle).
ie 3M either side. 30 mph limit.
"Oncoming drive panics" I did?? Quite an imagination youve got there.
"Swerves to the left into space that was there to be used all the time!" I was in a car. What space? It was a 2 lane highway. 6M wide, 3M either side.
Think YOU need to read the Highway code matey.
Pistonheads 2026.
In a follow up to the earlier front page news. In summary.
"Appropriate space".....Highway code....leave at least 1.5 metres when overtaking cyclists at speeds of up to 30mph, and give them more space when overtaking at higher speeds.
Thats the first one for you. The road was 6M wide....... (Roads have to be a min of 5.5M to have a line down the middle).
ie 3M either side. 30 mph limit.
"Oncoming drive panics" I did?? Quite an imagination youve got there.
"Swerves to the left into space that was there to be used all the time!" I was in a car. What space? It was a 2 lane highway. 6M wide, 3M either side.
Think YOU need to read the Highway code matey.
Pistonheads 2026.
Driver explodes in a hissy fit, because things didn’t go his way.
I’m sure every driver knows the dimensions of a road and the width requirements for a white central dividing line.
Opapayer said:
DSMSMR said:
WHAT....
In summary.
"Appropriate space".....Highway code....leave at least 1.5 metres when overtaking cyclists at speeds of up to 30mph, and give them more space when overtaking at higher speeds.
Thats the first one for you. The road was 6M wide....... (Roads have to be a min of 5.5M to have a line down the middle).
ie 3M either side. 30 mph limit.
"Oncoming drive panics" I did?? Quite an imagination youve got there.
"Swerves to the left into space that was there to be used all the time!" I was in a car. What space? It was a 2 lane highway. 6M wide, 3M either side.
Think YOU need to read the Highway code matey.
Pistonheads 2026.
In a follow up to the earlier front page news. In summary.
"Appropriate space".....Highway code....leave at least 1.5 metres when overtaking cyclists at speeds of up to 30mph, and give them more space when overtaking at higher speeds.
Thats the first one for you. The road was 6M wide....... (Roads have to be a min of 5.5M to have a line down the middle).
ie 3M either side. 30 mph limit.
"Oncoming drive panics" I did?? Quite an imagination youve got there.
"Swerves to the left into space that was there to be used all the time!" I was in a car. What space? It was a 2 lane highway. 6M wide, 3M either side.
Think YOU need to read the Highway code matey.
Pistonheads 2026.
Driver explodes in a hissy fit, because things didn t go his way.
I m sure every driver knows the dimensions of a road and the width requirements for a white central dividing line.
What else didnt I do.....rant with rage shouting at something?...Gesturing at the motorbike/cyclist/trees....shaking my fist....OR just saw a motorbike overtake a cyclist and go into oncoming trafic.
Pistonheads 2026....
Edited by DSMSMR on Monday 15th June 15:16
DSMSMR said:
So now its "exploding in a hissy fit. Things didnt go my way"...make your mind up. Road widths arent exactly difficult, overtaking etc is in the Highway code, try reading it.
What else didnt I do.....rant with rage shouting at something?...Gesturing at the motorbike/cyclist/trees....shaking my fist....OR just saw a motorbike overtake a cyclist and go into oncoming trafic.
Pistonheads 2026....
Use of several ellipses, multiple consecutive question marks, use of capitals mid-sentence, are all definite signs of someone typing whilst having a hissy fit. Not to worry, someone might agree with you at some point and you can cuddle up to that to help you sleep tonight. What else didnt I do.....rant with rage shouting at something?...Gesturing at the motorbike/cyclist/trees....shaking my fist....OR just saw a motorbike overtake a cyclist and go into oncoming trafic.
Pistonheads 2026....
Edited by DSMSMR on Monday 15th June 15:16
Opapayer said:
DSMSMR said:
So now its "exploding in a hissy fit. Things didnt go my way"...make your mind up. Road widths arent exactly difficult, overtaking etc is in the Highway code, try reading it.
What else didnt I do.....rant with rage shouting at something?...Gesturing at the motorbike/cyclist/trees....shaking my fist....OR just saw a motorbike overtake a cyclist and go into oncoming trafic.
Pistonheads 2026....
Use of several ellipses, multiple consecutive question marks, use of capitals mid-sentence, are all definite signs of someone typing whilst having a hissy fit. Not to worry, someone might agree with you at some point and you can cuddle up to that to help you sleep tonight. What else didnt I do.....rant with rage shouting at something?...Gesturing at the motorbike/cyclist/trees....shaking my fist....OR just saw a motorbike overtake a cyclist and go into oncoming trafic.
Pistonheads 2026....
Edited by DSMSMR on Monday 15th June 15:16
As a cyclist who is fed up of cars passing me so closely that I could hit them simply by sticking my elbow out, I'm happy when someone leaves a good amount of space. IME motorcyclists usually do leave plenty of room as they are more 'aware' of the perils of being on 2 wheels.
That said, passing car drivers shouldn't be causing the other side traffic to swerve but rather than wait a few seconds they often pass dangerously in order to maintain their car-length, close-formation, tailgate-procession.
Sadly, tailgating and poor overtaking is something I witness most days (cycling), just last week I was overtaken right on the brow of a sharp humpback bridge with absolutely no forward visibility, there was a car oncoming but fortunately far enough from the bridge for disaster to be avoided.
That said, passing car drivers shouldn't be causing the other side traffic to swerve but rather than wait a few seconds they often pass dangerously in order to maintain their car-length, close-formation, tailgate-procession.
Sadly, tailgating and poor overtaking is something I witness most days (cycling), just last week I was overtaken right on the brow of a sharp humpback bridge with absolutely no forward visibility, there was a car oncoming but fortunately far enough from the bridge for disaster to be avoided.
Oh, I see.
Apparently A forcing B to move over or have a head on because A couldn't be bothered to wait until it was clear is all fine and dandy?
OP is right to be annoyed at the other Biker.
On another note, maintain a road position close to the centre and make it clear you're not moving over - it usually stops others doing this.
Apparently A forcing B to move over or have a head on because A couldn't be bothered to wait until it was clear is all fine and dandy?
OP is right to be annoyed at the other Biker.
On another note, maintain a road position close to the centre and make it clear you're not moving over - it usually stops others doing this.
If the biker crossed into the OP’s lane then the motorbike rider would have to be a long way into his lane to warrant him moving to the left, unless he was close to the white line himself. The OP states that the road must be 5.5m wide as a minimum to justify the central dividing lane (he knows this one is 6metres though), the bike was hugging the left of their lane (say 0.5 metres wide) so the motorbike had to move 2.5m away from the bicycle to get to the white line. To get into his lane and force the OP to move in what is likely to be a car that’s two metres wide at most would mean the biker moving 3 metres over as a minimum, even then, the OP would have had plenty of space to move into to his left and not really notice it.
But you know OMGZ, motorbike came into my lane…… MY LANE. It’s awful, I can’t cope. Waaahhhh waaaaahhhhh. Or similar outrage from the OP.
But you know OMGZ, motorbike came into my lane…… MY LANE. It’s awful, I can’t cope. Waaahhhh waaaaahhhhh. Or similar outrage from the OP.
I got chucked off a Fors cycling course because I refused to cycle 2 abreast down the road & to keep going round & round a r/o in the centre of a town bringing the roads to a standstill
I told the 2 Lycra clad idiots cycling 2 abreast is bloody stupid , trying to get passed in a 40 t lorry turns into a bloody nightmare , apparently I should wait to overtake until they decide to turn off in 20 miles , youd never think I’ve deadlines & deliveries to make , cyclists come first apparently , not in my world they don’t .
How often do you see horse riders riding 2 abreast down the road , you don’t , and when they hear a approaching vechicle they stop , and you pass steadily , not bloody cyclists , let’s cycle 2 abreast then roar our eyes out when we get a load of abuse off the pissed off lorry driver , and don’t start me on the Lycra idiots in London .
Though when you’ve got Jeremy vine amongst your ranks what else would you expect .
I told the 2 Lycra clad idiots cycling 2 abreast is bloody stupid , trying to get passed in a 40 t lorry turns into a bloody nightmare , apparently I should wait to overtake until they decide to turn off in 20 miles , youd never think I’ve deadlines & deliveries to make , cyclists come first apparently , not in my world they don’t .
How often do you see horse riders riding 2 abreast down the road , you don’t , and when they hear a approaching vechicle they stop , and you pass steadily , not bloody cyclists , let’s cycle 2 abreast then roar our eyes out when we get a load of abuse off the pissed off lorry driver , and don’t start me on the Lycra idiots in London .
Though when you’ve got Jeremy vine amongst your ranks what else would you expect .
catso said:
just last week I was overtaken right on the brow of a sharp humpback bridge with absolutely no forward visibility, there was a car oncoming but fortunately far enough from the bridge for disaster to be avoided.
Warwickshire? This happened to me very recently. Cyclist being overtaken over a hump back. I was coming the other way and had to pretty much stop to leave space for the gormless old w
ker in a silver Mitsubishi (I think) to get back on his side of the road without running into me or running the cyclist off the road. He didn t appear to react at all to what he d done. And was 20m from a T junction so was saving himself mere seconds.
The thing is here that the cyclist (or biker) is going to get the bad news in these situations. Who s going to accept a head on crash with another car when the alternative is to swipe the two wheeled user instead?
Edited by FNG on Monday 15th June 21:23
Ghs said:
I got chucked off a Fors cycling course because I refused to cycle 2 abreast down the road & to keep going round & round a r/o in the centre of a town bringing the roads to a standstill
I told the 2 Lycra clad idiots cycling 2 abreast is bloody stupid , trying to get passed in a 40 t lorry turns into a bloody nightmare , apparently I should wait to overtake until they decide to turn off in 20 miles , youd never think I ve deadlines & deliveries to make , cyclists come first apparently , not in my world they don t .
How often do you see horse riders riding 2 abreast down the road , you don t , and when they hear a approaching vechicle they stop , and you pass steadily , not bloody cyclists , let s cycle 2 abreast then roar our eyes out when we get a load of abuse off the pissed off lorry driver , and don t start me on the Lycra idiots in London .
Though when you ve got Jeremy vine amongst your ranks what else would you expect .
Jesus Christ. I’m soooooo important in my lorry that I’ll kill people to meet a deadline. You’re the one who shouldn’t be on the road with a view like that. If any motorbike riders want to support his view then feel free. I told the 2 Lycra clad idiots cycling 2 abreast is bloody stupid , trying to get passed in a 40 t lorry turns into a bloody nightmare , apparently I should wait to overtake until they decide to turn off in 20 miles , youd never think I ve deadlines & deliveries to make , cyclists come first apparently , not in my world they don t .
How often do you see horse riders riding 2 abreast down the road , you don t , and when they hear a approaching vechicle they stop , and you pass steadily , not bloody cyclists , let s cycle 2 abreast then roar our eyes out when we get a load of abuse off the pissed off lorry driver , and don t start me on the Lycra idiots in London .
Though when you ve got Jeremy vine amongst your ranks what else would you expect .
DSMSMR said:
Out for a bimble about and coming towards me was a cyclist, pretty tight to the hedge. 2 lane road, white line down the middle so not a narrow job, motorbike then indicated and overtook the cuclist, going over the white line into my lane causing me to move over left.
First for me.
The motorcyclist was being a tosser, you shouldn't make an overtake unless it is clear to do so. First for me.
I drive, ride and cycle to appreciate there are self entitled clowns in all camps that give the majority of us a bad name.
My preferred cycling roads are single track, the 1.5m passing rule would mean driving in the adjacent field so I just pull in and let people pass. It's not difficult to be considerate on the roads.
Opapayer said:
If the biker crossed into the OP s lane then the motorbike rider would have to be a long way into his lane to warrant him moving to the left, unless he was close to the white line himself. The OP states that the road must be 5.5m wide as a minimum to justify the central dividing lane (he knows this one is 6metres though), the bike was hugging the left of their lane (say 0.5 metres wide) so the motorbike had to move 2.5m away from the bicycle to get to the white line. To get into his lane and force the OP to move in what is likely to be a car that s two metres wide at most would mean the biker moving 3 metres over as a minimum, even then, the OP would have had plenty of space to move into to his left and not really notice it.
But you know OMGZ, motorbike came into my lane MY LANE. It s awful, I can t cope. Waaahhhh waaaaahhhhh. Or similar outrage from the OP.
But you know OMGZ, motorbike came into my lane MY LANE. It s awful, I can t cope. Waaahhhh waaaaahhhhh. Or similar outrage from the OP.
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