Car not starting, waiting for RAC..
Car not starting, waiting for RAC..
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Monsterlime

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1,407 posts

187 months

Monday 29th July 2019
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I thought I’d give the car a run after doing the coolant. Mrs needed me to pick something up so thought I’d take the Chim.

Mistake!

Got to my destination (temps actually staying very constant so coolant top up/otter seems good) picked up the item, car will just start, chug away with revs VERY low, no response from the throttle and dies.

I can’t hear the fuel pump priming either. That doesn’t strike me as the hot start issue, is it? Occasionally nothing will happen, won’t even try to turn over. Just under half a tank of fuel but I picked it up with less and filled it up (didn’t brim it), so I don’t think the fuel gauge is wrong..

Any thoughts while I wait for the RAC?

I have no tools on me, yes, that was a mistake.

swisstoni

21,770 posts

300 months

Monday 29th July 2019
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I’m no mechanic but sounds like a relay if the fuel pumps not priming.

Monsterlime

Original Poster:

1,407 posts

187 months

Monday 29th July 2019
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I’ve prodded the 2 relays in the footwell, unplugged etc, still nothing.

Monsterlime

Original Poster:

1,407 posts

187 months

Monday 29th July 2019
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Also, there is a red pulley in the corner in the boot behind the driver. Looks like the bonnet pulley but is red. What is it?

My old Chim didn’t have one, so am not sure what it is.

TheRainMaker

7,520 posts

263 months

Monday 29th July 2019
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Monsterlime said:
Also, there is a red pulley in the corner in the boot behind the driver. Looks like the bonnet pulley but is red. What is it?

My old Chim didn’t have one, so am not sure what it is.
Opens the door

Granturadriver

679 posts

282 months

Monday 29th July 2019
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Car drove without problems and started after the break?! Would assume something is wrong with the fuel supply (trinary switch, fuel pump, air lock in or leaking fuel lines)!

Good luck!

TheRainMaker

7,520 posts

263 months

Monday 29th July 2019
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Monsterlime said:
I’ve prodded the 2 relays in the footwell, unplugged etc, still nothing.
Try swapping them over.

Monsterlime

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1,407 posts

187 months

Monday 29th July 2019
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TheRainMaker said:
Monsterlime said:
I’ve prodded the 2 relays in the footwell, unplugged etc, still nothing.
Try swapping them over.
Nope, didn’t work. frown

Monsterlime

Original Poster:

1,407 posts

187 months

Monday 29th July 2019
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Granturadriver said:
Car drove without problems and started after the break?! Would assume something is wrong with the fuel supply (trinary switch, fuel pump, air lock in or leaking fuel lines)!

Good luck!
No issues at all on the drive here, but came back to the car after 5 min and it starts and die etc and no noise at all from the fuel pump.

I had it on my old Chim the wires on the pumped worked themselves loose and I managed to push them back on, but I had a golf umbrella then and lack that handy tool today. Tried and can’t reach it.

Is the trinary switch the one behind the “glove” box? Or something else?

Monsterlime

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1,407 posts

187 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Am home! No thanks to the RAC. 3.5 hours and they still haven’t even called to say they are coming.
Joined the AA (only left because the RAC was “free” via Tesco - that teaches me), they turned up in less than an hour.

Annoyingly it was the same problem I had with my last one - fuel pump connection. I hadn’t been able to reach it but the chap did, and she fired right up.
Next job at the top of the list is to permanently sort those connections, clean and protect them.

Belle427

11,152 posts

254 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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A couple of new connectors would be advisable but you can pinch the existing ones tighter with some pliers in the short term.

ed_crouch

1,169 posts

263 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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I think my approach would be to crimp some *GOOD* quality ring terminals onto the wires (check the copper hasn't gone back - if so replace both wires back until the copper is nice and bright), and use either shake-proof washers or threadlock to stop the nuts rattling loose, cover the connections with electrical contact grease or failing that Vaseline, and use those terminal boots to keep muck off.

ed_crouch

1,169 posts

263 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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In case your fuel pump has spade terminals, I might solder a flying lead onto the pump and fit an inline 2-pin JPT connector - remembering the wire seals. Zip tire the inline connector to the pump or at least somewhere where it wont flap about, fatiguing the solder connections at the pump spades.


Oldred_V8S

3,764 posts

259 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Monsterlime said:
TheRainMaker said:
Monsterlime said:
I’ve prodded the 2 relays in the footwell, unplugged etc, still nothing.
Try swapping them over.
Nope, didn’t work. frown
It won't, replace them as a pair or short out the 87 - 30 contacts for diagnostic purposes.

Monsterlime

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1,407 posts

187 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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I am away this weekend (with the family, so no TVR), but when I am back I will lift the car and take a proper look at the pump and deal with the connectors, thank you for the suggestions, they are much appreciated!

My other plan is to keep a golf umbrella in the car since I know that can be used to push them back on in a pinch. tongue out