What crankcase ventilation for supercharged 4.6?
What crankcase ventilation for supercharged 4.6?
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ed_crouch

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1,169 posts

263 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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Hi folks.
Does anyone have any recommendations for how to address crankcase ventilation on a 4.6 with a rotrex blower?

It hasn't got the blower yet, but I'm wondering which way to jump on PCV. I don't really want lots and lots of little trinkets all over the engine bay. The idea is light and fast.

Some say just bung the breather hose into a cut down lemonade bottle(!), others say I will need some all singing all dancing air oil separator, check valves, a breather hose of at least 1" bore from each rocker box, and an oil drain back to the sump... I want to keep it simple, but not to the point of it being a mobile cloud of oil smoke...

What say you, people?

Thank you.

Ed.

Steve_D

13,801 posts

279 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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Why would you change what is already there?

Steve

ed_crouch

Original Poster:

1,169 posts

263 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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Cos at the very least we’d need a check valve to stop boost pressure entering the crankcase.

Plus when you’re supercharged you only get to scavenge the crankcase vapours off boost, so there is a question of whether that is sufficient or whether an air/oil separator vented to atmosphere is a better option...

And I’ve been overthinking it and got into a headf**k...!




ITVRI

198 posts

203 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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Check out this thread for turbos but the principal is the same.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

phazed

22,430 posts

225 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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Mine isn’t FI but an NA 5.5 that has been used in track days and sprints without any problems.

I run a flame trap on each rocker box with a wide bore hose going to a catch tank at the front of the bay.

A simple neat solution.




Andav469

965 posts

158 months

Thursday 17th October 2019
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I fitted a Rotrex C38-91 charger to my 500 earlier this year and from experience, you cannot overlook engine breathing.
I started off with the single flame trap plumbed directly to the secondary plenum, but I started noticing oil leaks from the rocker covers, dipstick and rear of the sump.
I have tried various options and found that venting off from both rocker covers, into a small catch tank and plumbing into the secondary plenum has worked a treat.
I decided on two flame traps as that would help in oil separation from the air and then the catch tank being a ‘belt and braces’ approach to ensure no oil going into the intake.
Pics of my set up:-