Intermittent creaking/rattling following exhaust job
Intermittent creaking/rattling following exhaust job
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jazzdude

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900 posts

173 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Just got the car back from an exhaust fabricator, got him to take off the whole system, seal leaks in the branches at the 4 to 1 on both manifolds, replace gaskets, and rework the ACT Y piece so that ratchet straps are no longer required and to create a perfect seal (more on that later).

While it was there, I asked him to change the bobbins on the exhaust box, change the rubber holding the L shaped bolt at the back end of the system, and we also changed the rear drop links (TVR parts) while we were at it.

Driving it home, there is this very audible squeaking, creaking, rattling sound, coming into the cabin, not sure from where, although sometimes it sounds like it is coming from under the dash and sometimes behind me. It comes and goes, constant over bumpy surfaces, but also squeaking and rattling away while stationary. Its definitely not metallic, sort of a rubbing sound, but high pitched.

Took the car back, lifted it to check for any loose bolts, banged away at the exhaust boxes, couldn't find it. Part of me wonders if it is coming from the body itself as it sounds like it is flexing, but why would it still make the noise, more or less constantly for a minute or two while completely stationary?

I am really not sure where to start because each time I go to check it, it goes away, and for at least a couple of miles, it went away completely, where I thought 'OK, its cured itself' only for it to come back again a minute later.


Zener

19,286 posts

242 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Do you run a plenum spacer?

jazzdude

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900 posts

173 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Yes I do

Belle427

11,134 posts

254 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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If the noise developed after the exhaust work I’d guess that something is now transmitting vibration through the chassis?

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

170 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Zener said:
Do you run a plenum spacer?
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Classy wink

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

170 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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I over tightened some new exhaust tray rubbers once. That created a vibration. Loosed the bolts off 1/2 turn and good to go. Worth checking.

jazzdude

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900 posts

173 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Classic Chim said:
I over tightened some new exhaust tray rubbers once. That created a vibration. Loosed the bolts off 1/2 turn and good to go. Worth checking.
Will do, might also drop the anti roll bar as well.

jazzdude

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900 posts

173 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Classic Chim said:
I over tightened some new exhaust tray rubbers once. That created a vibration. Loosed the bolts off 1/2 turn and good to go. Worth checking.
Will do, might also drop the anti roll bar as well.

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

170 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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jazzdude said:
Will do, might also drop the anti roll bar as well.
I’d do one thing at a time.
I’d start with Zeds suggestion. Add a couple of pieces of foam under both top corners of the bonnet and shut it so it can’t flex and vibrate. Helps clear your plenum which with a spacer is very close to touching at any time.

jazzdude

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900 posts

173 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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The plenum spacer has been on there as long as I have had the car so I'm not sure how that can now be a problem.

Classic Chim

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170 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Well it’s very easy to check but hey hoo!
You mentioned something about the body flexing and sound from under the dash! The bonnet flexes more than any other body part but whatever.

Classic Chim

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170 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Why drop the rollbar? What purpose will that serve. It’s very easy to check the tailpipes just by tugging them. The roll bar stays static at that point so what is the point of removing it?

Just creating work for nothing unless you have fked links,,


Edited by Classic Chim on Friday 20th March 22:00

jazzdude

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900 posts

173 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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Classic Chim said:
Why drop the rollbar? What purpose will that serve. It’s very easy to check the tailpipes just by tugging them. The roll bar stays static at that point so what is the point of removing it?

Just creating work for nothing unless you have fked links,,

Because I also had new drop links fitted, perhaps they have either been over tightened or are loose, although it would not explain the squeaky rattle while stationary.

Edited by Classic Chim on Friday 20th March 22:00

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

170 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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So logically it’s something near the engine or exhaust as what else can make noise from a stationary running vehicle.
Process of elimination is to do one thing at a time or you won’t even know what you fixed rofl
Goodluck.

jazzdude

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900 posts

173 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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Does anyone know how to determine how tight the exhaust bobbins should be?

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

170 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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Enough so the rubbers pinch the tray and silencer box but not enough to crush the rubbers was my experience biggrin

Maybe about 8psi but I just do it by feel. They are the only things separating the silencer box from both the tray and chassis so a good place to start. .
Should have nigh lock nuts so don’t need to be too tight. thumbup

jazzdude

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900 posts

173 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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I think I might have found what could be the problem.

Searching on here all morning and describing the noise it seems others have had exactly the same experience and, guess what, it has nothing to do with the exhaust.

Chattering door solenoids they call it and it sounds like all the squeaking and creaking I have. Going to go out and check the door switches now.

Hedgehopper

1,542 posts

265 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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When the exhaust was removed has the bolt been replaced through the bracket near the flexi section into the block? I imagine this could cause a squealy noise if engine movement caused it to rub.

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

170 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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jazzdude said:
I think I might have found what could be the problem.

Searching on here all morning and describing the noise it seems others have had exactly the same experience and, guess what, it has nothing to do with the exhaust.

Chattering door solenoids they call it and it sounds like all the squeaking and creaking I have. Going to go out and check the door switches now.
I’ve had a door solenoid chattering, similar sound to a relay going on and off ( chattering)

Lock or latch could be loose in the door or aperture causing the door to move thumbup
Check there’s not free play in the door hinges while your there.
Check the spring loaded actuator in the sill area is lubricated or has free movement.

Steve_D

13,801 posts

279 months

Sunday 22nd March 2020
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jazzdude said:
................... Going to go out and check the door switches now.
They are easy to remove so worth pulling them and cleaning the contacts.

Steve