Gel battery
Gel battery
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SILICONEKID 357HP

Original Poster:

14,997 posts

252 months

Monday 10th August 2020
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After letting my jell battery go flat ,it wont charge anymore than 8.5 Volts .
I've tried my accumate and a standard charger .
Is it time for a new one or is there any tricks to get it working ?

indigochim

2,066 posts

151 months

Monday 10th August 2020
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Sounds like it may be terminal but this link at bottom of post suggests that you may be able to get some juice back into the battery with a dumb charger that doesn't try and detect the battery.

https://www.aussiebatteries.com.au/blog/how-to-tro...

Edited by indigochim on Tuesday 11th August 07:23

Hedgehopper

1,542 posts

265 months

Monday 10th August 2020
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According to Odyssey the reason that your battery won’t charge is because the voltage is too low for the charger to recognise the battery. To get around this problem you connect a good fully charged battery in parallel with jump leads to your flat battery and then connect the charger to the combined pair. The charger will then recognise that a battery is connected.

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

200 months

Monday 10th August 2020
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Odyssey batteries aren't gel, they're absorbed glass mat (AGM).

What battery construction does Daz actually have scratchchin


QBee

22,015 posts

165 months

Tuesday 11th August 2020
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It's probably an Odyssey, but we need Daz to tell us.
I am puzzled by the 8.5 volts - that suggests that the charger did recognise the battery as being present, but suggests 2 failed cells.

I am on my third Odyssey battery now. One was allowed to go too flat, one was faulty from the factory, and the third one has never missed a beat, but I now have a cut-off switch for then the car is not in use for long periods - after 9 months with the switch turned off over the winter (engine fubarred), the battery still had 75% charge when it was turned on again. Which just goes to show that they are good batteries, but that the alarm etc drains them if the car isn't driven.

Daz, I have an intelligent charger/tester that has a recovery mode, and some decent jump leads. Give me a call and I can pop over and see you and see if we can identify the problem or solve it.

swisstoni

21,646 posts

300 months

Tuesday 11th August 2020
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There’s a technique, involving a second battery, to get it to a stage from where you can then hook up a normal charger and charge up as normal.

I’m a numpty with electrics so that’s as technical as it’s going to get from me.

If you type something like recover AGM battery into YouTube there will be a few pop up.

mk1fan

10,827 posts

246 months

Tuesday 11th August 2020
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Hhhmmm

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

200 months

Tuesday 11th August 2020
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QBee said:
I am on my third Odyssey battery now. One was allowed to go too flat, one was faulty from the factory, and the third one has never missed a beat, but I now have a cut-off switch for then the car is not in use for long periods - after 9 months with the switch turned off over the winter (engine fubarred), the battery still had 75% charge when it was turned on again. Which just goes to show that they are good batteries, but that the alarm etc drains them if the car isn't driven.
Sound odd to me Anthony scratchchin

Odyssey batteries are first class quality in my experience, I've had my Odyssey PC1500 for 8.5 years now and it's as good as new!

It is of course a proper full sized Odyssey, you cant beat physics so I don't believe in those half sized Odyssey batteries.

Zener

19,286 posts

242 months

Tuesday 11th August 2020
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AGM is just like any other battery "use em or lose em" storing them with anything less than 90% charge is asking for long term trouble rolleyes and the stuff about "I managed to fully recover my battery from flat no voltage" etc trust me you didn't you will pay for that fk up batteries dont like to be left discharged for long periods old new Gel AGM conventional lead acid or otherwise , I'm four years in with my Odyssey no issue at all and when I hit the battery cut after winter lay-up I'm displaying 12.5 volts and yes I charge fully before lay-up and I dont mean running the car or driving it round the block laugh like Dave said they are good units

over_the_hill

3,264 posts

267 months

Tuesday 11th August 2020
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Hedgehopper said:
According to Odyssey the reason that your battery won’t charge is because the voltage is too low for the charger to recognise the battery. To get around this problem you connect a good fully charged battery in parallel with jump leads to your flat battery and then connect the charger to the combined pair. The charger will then recognise that a battery is connected.
Or just use the second battery to jump start the car and go for a good drive.
The alternator will then shove plenty of charge in.
(Take the good battery with you in case you stall or have to stop and need to jump it again)

Zener

19,286 posts

242 months

Tuesday 11th August 2020
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Try to connect another battery in parallel whist charging either on or off the vehicle like you would doing a jump start smile connecting the batt charger just to one battery Daz, better to trickle charge that battery from discharged/flat then using the cars charging circuit, in this weather your alternator wont thank you for that stunt

Hedgehopper

1,542 posts

265 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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ChimpOnGas said:
Odyssey batteries aren't gel, they're absorbed glass mat (AGM).

What battery construction does Daz actually have.
He seems to have gone......

TwinKam

3,439 posts

116 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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Hedgehopper said:
ChimpOnGas said:
Odyssey batteries aren't gel, they're absorbed glass mat (AGM).

What battery construction does Daz actually have.
He seems to have gone......
...he's pushing it to Anthony's...

Belle427

11,124 posts

254 months

Wednesday 12th August 2020
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The Police may have charged him.

QBee

22,015 posts

165 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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Belle427 said:
The Police may have charged him.
Ha Ha!! (Smilies not working)

If only........

QBee

22,015 posts

165 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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TwinKam said:
Hedgehopper said:
ChimpOnGas said:
Odyssey batteries aren't gel, they're absorbed glass mat (AGM).

What battery construction does Daz actually have.
He seems to have gone......
...he's pushing it to Anthony's...
Quite possibly (as long as he has someone to talk to along the way)
It's only about 15 miles, so I will expect him some time next week, as the route between us is quite hilly for Nottinghamshire.
I am imagining he has an Odyssey 925 or similar, one of the half size AGM batteries.

Zener

19,286 posts

242 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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TwinKam said:
Hedgehopper said:
ChimpOnGas said:
Odyssey batteries aren't gel, they're absorbed glass mat (AGM).

What battery construction does Daz actually have.
He seems to have gone......
...he's pushing it to Anthony's...
laughbiglaughlaughjester

hoofa

3,153 posts

229 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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ChimpOnGas said:
QBee said:
I am on my third Odyssey battery now. One was allowed to go too flat, one was faulty from the factory, and the third one has never missed a beat, but I now have a cut-off switch for then the car is not in use for long periods - after 9 months with the switch turned off over the winter (engine fubarred), the battery still had 75% charge when it was turned on again. Which just goes to show that they are good batteries, but that the alarm etc drains them if the car isn't driven.
Sound odd to me Anthony scratchchin

Odyssey batteries are first class quality in my experience, I've had my Odyssey PC1500 for 8.5 years now and it's as good as new!

It is of course a proper full sized Odyssey, you cant beat physics so I don't believe in those half sized Odyssey batteries.
My PC1500 battery died after 6yrs so you doing well with yours, mine is always on a conditioner so not sure why it should have expired

Belle427

11,124 posts

254 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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I killed an optima battery after letting it discharge too much once too often.
Think that was around 5 years old.

Zener

19,286 posts

242 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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Belle427 said:
I killed an optima battery after letting it discharge too much once too often.
Think that was around 5 years old.
Thats generally the outcome frown