Exhaust manifold removal
Exhaust manifold removal
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LenChim

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226 posts

176 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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2001 4.5 Chim. Not that that should make much difference. What is the best way to get at and remove the exhaust manifold bolts. I have to take the P/S manifold of as it appears to be leaking where all the pipes join. I have removed the air induction system and the plug leads and can undo the top bolts and the first one at the front end underneath. 14mm or 9/16 spanners. Apart from taking the engine out how the hell do you get to the rest? and advice would be greatly received.frown

s p a c e m a n

11,502 posts

169 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Fun isn't it hehe

Put a bolt back in the top to hold the weight of the manifold and only remove it when you have to otherwise it's harder to undo the bottom ones. I've use a cut down 14mm spanner for the bottoms and also grind the jaws of the spanner down thinner that way you get more of a turn with it. I can do them all from the top with my fingers through the holes, I find that less annoying than laying under the car and doing it but if it's your first time it's probably easier to do it from underneath.

LenChim

Original Poster:

226 posts

176 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Can you send me pic of your spanner? Does it have an odd set to the shaft? Because I can't hold the spanner through the gap between the engine and the manford as the shaft is almost vertical down. Mind you I do have pigs t**s for fingers.

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

170 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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It’s easier to go from underneath but you will have to remove starter motor which is only a 10 min job compared to the 2 hrs per manifold it takes to remove each one which is also normal.

Paul Goldstar

91 posts

148 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Len I did it on Wednesday - I can't see how my sausage fingers could have done it from the top but my car was on stands anyhow so I did it from underneath.

I took the exhaust off and the starter motor off (disconnect battery first). It was then just a case of getting under with a torch and reaching up to get the access to the bolts. Took me a couple of hours with a few tea breaks...

Its actually 9/16 if you have one although a 14 will do it as well. Worth a dose of plus gas before you start although none of my bolts were stuck in. Some people have found a S shaped spanner helps but I got on OK with a standard spanner.

I'm going to slot the bottoms and use studs when it all goes back together.

Bon chance

phazed

22,416 posts

225 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Bolts are 9/16ths AF.

Don't use metric, a 14mm is slightly larger and will round them off.

Never done it from the top, looks impossible to me!

Buy a couple of cheap 9/16ths from Ebay and cut them down as necessary.

You can get a 9/16ths ring on some. I find a set of short spanners are invaluable and cheap to buy.

Defo starter out which is 10 mins as Alun says.

Basically a st job........

s p a c e m a n

11,502 posts

169 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Mine is just a standard straight spanner with the outside of the jaws filed down thinner, it means that it will fit in tighter between the bolt and the manifold so that you get a better angle on it if you get what I mean, the reason your spanner is pointing straight down is because it won't fit on the next bit round on the bolt. I use a cut down spanner for the last bolt by the firewall because I can then get more of a turn in it before hitting fiberglass. Grinding it thinner also helps a bit. They're not in there that tight, once you get a turn on them it's just a case of keeping at it.



Edited by s p a c e m a n on Friday 12th March 18:41

LenChim

Original Poster:

226 posts

176 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Thanks very much for all your input, it seem I'll have to tighten the bolts I have loosened to put it on the ramps.
Thanks again Len. beer

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

170 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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s p a c e m a n said:
Mine is just a standard straight spanner with the outside of the jaws filed down thinner, it means that it will fit in tighter between the bolt and the manifold so that you get a better angle on it if you get what I mean, the reason your spanner is pointing straight down is because it won't fit on the next bit round on the bolt. I use a cut down spanner for the last bolt by the firewall because I can then get more of a turn in it before hitting fiberglass. Grinding it thinner also helps a bit. They're not in there that tight, once you get a turn on them it's just a case of keeping at it.



Edited by s p a c e m a n on Friday 12th March 18:41
Great explanation of how to adapt a spanner. You can tell this blokes done this before biggrin I calculated whilst bored out my brains on my back whilst doing this with a standard spanner that it takes 5 mins to do one complete turn including dropping spanner etc etc. Patience is a virtue you really do need and or a few clever spanners makes it much less painfull.

asd2001

164 posts

108 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Or just weld in situ.... worked for me and avoided the need to remove the manifolds. Good luck

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

170 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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phazed said:
I’ve just bought the Snap on spanner.
You can never have too many of those babies thumbup

Loubaruch

1,401 posts

219 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Good advice above regarding spanners.

This may be helpful:

http://www.bertram-hill.com/replacing-exhaust-gask...

SteveR1979

601 posts

162 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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I did mine using an aviation spanner, they have a funky offset.


Classic Chim

12,424 posts

170 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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SteveR1979 said:
I did mine using an aviation spanner, they have a funky offset.
laugh
Want thumbup

dogbucket

1,252 posts

222 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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I used the following assortment when I did mine


Snap-on flankdrive plus 14mm SOEXM14 combination wrench

Snap-on 4 Way Angle Head VSM5214B - good for the lower front one where an open ended is needed

Facom straight ring spanner 59.14x15 - for the other lower ones particularly the back 2.

DangerousDerek

8,675 posts

241 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Another little tip.
Tie sturdy small rope to the other end of the spanner of choice and pull upwards.
It works for refitting too.

phazed

22,416 posts

225 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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People keep saying 14mm but the bolts are 9/16ths AF.

There is a difference!

If you must use 14mm, use a 9/16th to crack them off and use odd shaped 14s to spin them off.

Zener

19,284 posts

242 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Just out of interest and seeing as 14mm is considered a 9/16 equivalent idea well not quite 9/16 is 0.3mm larger a similar thing with 1/2 Vs 13mm. 7/16 Vs 11mm. 3/8 Vs 9mm. and so on , they are close but no cigar

s p a c e m a n

11,502 posts

169 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Yeah I just cut up my 14mms because they were cheap, I'm not taking a grinder to my imperial set hehe