How well does the car run after battery reconnected?
How well does the car run after battery reconnected?
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phn

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337 posts

264 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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Hi there,

Just wanting to get anyones experiences of how well a standard Chimaera will run after the battery supply to the car is reconnected after being isolated for a period of time.

From looking at other posts, I understand that the ECU will relearn it's settings within 20 mins or so, but how bad will the engine be running during that time - would it be undriveable, or just a bit rough? My car is a standard 450.

Also are there any other issues such as to do with the alarm / immobiliser on reconnecting the power?

Would love to get any feedback from those with a battery isolator switch, or anyone who had to remove / change the battery, in a standard Chimaera with a 14 CUX ECU.

Many thanks!


geordiepingu

344 posts

82 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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From experience, mine just ran a little bit rich until it acclimatised to the fuel trims. Wouldn't be overly concerned about it. Have disconnected and reconnected my battery a few times for storage.

I'd be more concerned making sure that you can get into the car to reconnect the battery!

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

170 months

Wednesday 26th May 2021
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I think it rather depends on how long it’s been standing but it should run pretty much as normal.
Possibly a bit richer until it’s warmed up and fans have come on / off

Loubaruch

1,401 posts

219 months

Wednesday 26th May 2021
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My Griffith has had the battery completely disconnected for long periods of time sometimes a few months as it is off the road during the winter. It has never failed to start without problems this is over a period of 19 years! As mentioned above the engine may run rich for a while but this soon sorts itself out.

phn

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337 posts

264 months

Wednesday 26th May 2021
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Thanks for the replies - look like nothing to worry about then!

Just a question, when you say the car runs rich, how is that actaully felt or detected in the car - what is the effect on driveability or performance (if any)?

Thanks again!

s p a c e m a n

11,489 posts

169 months

Wednesday 26th May 2021
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Mine lives with the battery isolated and the ECU removed. Normally starts after a second on the key, happily idles whilst I throw the roof in the boot and drives exactly the same as it does for the rest of the day thumbup

phn

Original Poster:

337 posts

264 months

Wednesday 26th May 2021
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s p a c e m a n said:
Mine lives with the battery isolated and the ECU removed. Normally starts after a second on the key, happily idles whilst I throw the roof in the boot and drives exactly the same as it does for the rest of the day thumbup
Nice! I'm buying a battery brain isolator with remote control, so this should make it easy to isolate the car when leaving it for a while, and will also automatically isolate the battery to save it in the event the voltage gets low.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

130 months

Wednesday 26th May 2021
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phn said:
Nice! I'm buying a battery brain isolator with remote control, so this should make it easy to isolate the car when leaving it for a while, and will also automatically isolate the battery to save it in the event the voltage gets low.
What disconnect voltage are you going to request the battery brain be set at?

phn

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337 posts

264 months

Wednesday 26th May 2021
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Penelope Stopit said:
What disconnect voltage are you going to request the battery brain be set at?
Hi, the only options given when ordering were to select either the 12V or 24V model, so I selected 12V.

From the battery brain website I found this:

"The Battery Brain will disconnect your battery automatically if it detects the battery voltage has fallen below 11.8V (for the 12V units) and below 23.7V (for the 24V units), continuously for 30 seconds. This will allow you enough charge to start your motor."

They did also say all devices are tested prior to dispatch to make sure they will operate correctly.

Hope it helps!

Loubaruch

1,401 posts

219 months

Wednesday 26th May 2021
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Apart from the stink of unburnt fuel the car always runs OK after a layup.

Hedgehopper

1,542 posts

265 months

Wednesday 26th May 2021
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My car runs normally after a battery reconnect but sometimes it triggers the alarm, just make sure your alarm fob is handy!

phn

Original Poster:

337 posts

264 months

Wednesday 26th May 2021
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Hedgehopper said:
My car runs normally after a battery reconnect but sometimes it triggers the alarm, just make sure your alarm fob is handy!
Gotcha! Good tip - thanks! smile

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

130 months

Wednesday 26th May 2021
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phn said:
Penelope Stopit said:
What disconnect voltage are you going to request the battery brain be set at?
Hi, the only options given when ordering were to select either the 12V or 24V model, so I selected 12V.

From the battery brain website I found this:

"The Battery Brain will disconnect your battery automatically if it detects the battery voltage has fallen below 11.8V (for the 12V units) and below 23.7V (for the 24V units), continuously for 30 seconds. This will allow you enough charge to start your motor."

They did also say all devices are tested prior to dispatch to make sure they will operate correctly.

Hope it helps!
Sure does help, thank you

I must be looking at the wrong product


Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

130 months

Wednesday 26th May 2021
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Do you know that the 14 CUX ECU wiring can be altered so that the battery brain doesn't remove the permanent positive supply from the ECU?

All fault codes and settings are saved when doing the above

900T-R

20,406 posts

278 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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Penelope Stopit said:
Do you know that the 14 CUX ECU wiring can be altered so that the battery brain doesn't remove the permanent positive supply from the ECU?

All fault codes and settings are saved when doing the above
That's very interesting thumbup - any specifics, anyone?

Loubaruch

1,401 posts

219 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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Why would you bother when the ECU sorts itself out in a very short period?

geordiepingu

344 posts

82 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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Loubaruch said:
Why would you bother when the ECU sorts itself out in a very short period?
This

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

130 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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900T-R said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Do you know that the 14 CUX ECU wiring can be altered so that the battery brain doesn't remove the permanent positive supply from the ECU?

All fault codes and settings are saved when doing the above
That's very interesting thumbup - any specifics, anyone?
Running a cable 14/0.30, 1.0mm², 8.75A - cable OD 2.6mm (see https://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product/66/... from the battery positive through a 7.5 Amp inline blade fuse to 14 CUX plug terminal 15 will solve the problem of ECU memory loss.

Obviously the original ECU positive supply cable @ 14 CUX plug terminal 15 needs to be taped back in the loom or covered with heat-shrink sleeving

900T-R

20,406 posts

278 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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Thanks!! thumbup

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

130 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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900T-R said:
Thanks!! thumbup
You're welcome