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bad company

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21,401 posts

289 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Apologies if this has been done to death but I couldn't see a recent thread and the time has come for my Chim 500 to be 're-shod'.

I currently have Toyo Proxes all round. The fronts are 225/45 ZR16 93W, the rears 245/45 ZR16 94W. The fronts need replacing, the rears are OK.

Any recommendations? I gather that the Toyos are considered old hat now.

Thanks in advance.

QBee

22,108 posts

167 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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If they come in the right sizes, Uniroyal Rainsport 3s have awesome grip in all conditions. I have used them on a Saab and loved them, ClassiChimaera has just fitted them and loves them, Chimpongas swears by them

TA14

14,123 posts

281 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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QBee said:
If they come in the right sizes, Uniroyal Rainsport 3s
They don't.

Toyo T1-R for budget everyday use. Then AD08R, R1-R, R888, R888R depending on how much you value tyre life and want grip on track.

Probably AD08R for most people.

bad company

Original Poster:

21,401 posts

289 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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Please excuse my ignorance on this subject. My Chim is for road use only, it has never seen a track.

Are these the right tyres:-

http://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=110...

Thanks again.

TA14

14,123 posts

281 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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Yep. Happy motoring.

bad company

Original Poster:

21,401 posts

289 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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So Toyo or Yokohama. scratchchin

Whatever happened to Dunlop, Bridgestone and Goodyear.


Richard 858

1,882 posts

158 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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Of these 2 I'd go with the Yokos albeit the AD08R. I've tried both and the Yokos will give far better grip whilst the Toyos will last much longer. As ever it's determining the trade off between grip & mileage, I would strongly recommend changing after 5- 6 years or so in any case which will help determine how many miles you expect of your tyres.

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

254 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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Change the tyre size ..

I hated the Federal rsr s on the road but enjoy driving with Rainsports .

Track day tyres are good for what they are designed for. ,

bad company

Original Poster:

21,401 posts

289 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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SILICONEKID345HP said:
Change the tyre size ..

I hated the Federal rsr s on the road but enjoy driving with Rainsports .. ,
Excuse my ignorance but WTF is 'Federal rsr s' and what are rainsports please??? confused

QBee

22,108 posts

167 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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bad company said:
SILICONEKID345HP said:
Change the tyre size ..

I hated the Federal rsr s on the road but enjoy driving with Rainsports .. ,
Excuse my ignorance but WTF is 'Federal rsr s' and what are rainsports please??? confused
Federal 595 RSR are a cheaper trackday and road tyre. About £350 a set in 17 inch sizes. Contrary to what the previous poster says, I loved (and completely wore out) a set of these driving both on the road and the track. Excellent dry grip, reasonable wet grip, not too stiff for the road, not too soft for the track.

Uniroyal Rainsport 3 are an A rated wet grip tyre. Similar price. Fantastic grip both wet and dry on the road, but you would probably trash them on a hot dry track day.

TA14

14,123 posts

281 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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bad company said:
So Toyo or Yokohama. scratchchin

Whatever happened to Dunlop, Bridgestone and Goodyear.

So after the thread diversion from recommending changing your wheels as well I'd choose the Yokohama unless you're particularly strapped for cash. As time moves on some manufacturers stop making less popular sizes in their best rubber and for these sizes D, B and G have dropped out. Frustrating isn't it?

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

202 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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QBee said:
If they come in the right sizes, Uniroyal Rainsport 3s have awesome grip in all conditions. I have used them on a Saab and loved them, ClassiChimaera has just fitted them and loves them, Chimpongas swears by them
Just to put the record straight I run Uniroyal Rainsport 2's not 3's, Uniroyal don't make the 2 any more though havng completely replaced it with the asymmetrical pattern 3's. The Rainsport 2 uses the traditional "V" type tread which was perfected by Goodyear in the late 1990's, this type of tread while quite old hat now actually remains the best tread pattern for dissipating water even to this day, it was only replaced for noise & fuel economy reasons.

The newer asymmetrical patterns were developed because the traditional "V" type tread is both noisy and so doesn't score that well in the fuel efficiency stakes (noise = friction = increased rolling resistance = worse fuel economy).

The thing is TVRs are generally so noisy on the road anyway a bit more road noise from the tyres will never be noticed, the fuel economy advantage of the newer asymmetrical pattern is so small as to be irrelevant too. So with all this in mind and the "V" pattern still the best performing tread design when it comes to shifting water I chose a set of the last run of Rainsport 2, but I guess that option wont e available to me next time so I'll probably e forced to go with the 3's which I understand is still a very good tyre anyway.

The fact remains if you want the best tyre tread design for cutting through standing water "V" pattern is still unbeatable... and because of the laws of hydrodynamics probably always will be yes

bad company

Original Poster:

21,401 posts

289 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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TA14 said:
So after the thread diversion from recommending changing your wheels as well I'd choose the Yokohama unless you're particularly strapped for cash. As time moves on some manufacturers stop making less popular sizes in their best rubber and for these sizes D, B and G have dropped out. Frustrating isn't it?
I'm not strapped for cash but would like tyres that offer good grip and last, the car is only ever used on the road it has never seen a track.

I'm only thinking of the Toyo's as that's what's on the car at the moment and they have performed and lasted well.

TA14

14,123 posts

281 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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bad company said:
I'm not strapped for cash but would like tyres that offer good grip and last, the car is only ever used on the road it has never seen a track.

I'm only thinking of the Toyo's as that's what's on the car at the moment and they have performed and lasted well.
The predecessor, the T1-S, was great for TVRs but the T1-R wears quite quickly on the edges if you press on through corners. (The central Y or curved bit was a solid chunk to the edge in the S but the R introduced a groove near to the edge that improved wet weather ability but was less stable.) So it's a horses for courses type answer smile

s3c chris

306 posts

153 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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Hi.

If you're keeping to the standard sizes I would suggest going for the Toyos.
I've been researching tyres recently and I think you will find Toyo are one of a very few companies that do the same pattern in the front and rear sizes.

AD08Rs whilst undoubtedly a good tyre, and the ones I will choose in my preferred sizes, are not made in 245/45x16 so if you want a matching set you will be stuck when the rears need changing.....

Chimaera wheels sizes seem to be old fashioned now, not that that is a bad thing......

Regards Chris.

davep

1,157 posts

307 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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OP have you checked the TVR Parts site for price comparison, etc.:

http://tvr-parts.com/tvr-parts?model=&category...

With the Toyos you also get the TVR logo on the tyre wall.

bad company

Original Poster:

21,401 posts

289 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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davep said:
OP have you checked the TVR Parts site for price comparison, etc.:

http://tvr-parts.com/tvr-parts?model=&category...

With the Toyos you also get the TVR logo on the tyre wall.
Thanks for that. I can't see the right size on that page - 225/45 ZR16 93W

N7GTX

8,261 posts

166 months

bad company

Original Poster:

21,401 posts

289 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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N7GTX said:
Thanks for that, I just called them. They have the rear tyres but not the fronts in stock. They can get them but their would be no TVR logo. Given that the prices are similar it's easier for me to buy and get them fitted locally.

Thanks for the tip tho. smile

asd2001

164 posts

110 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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I'm running Avon SV5s front and rear on standard wheels. I've found them good in both dry and wet for general running around, although not had anything to compare against. Anyone got views on how they compare?