New main bearing problem
New main bearing problem
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DangerousDerek

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8,675 posts

243 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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I am refreshing a 4.6 and had the crank ground +10thou at Chesmans.
I bought a set of +10 bearings but the centre main thrust bearing is very tight to the block. When I measured it with a vernier it measure 8 thou narrower inside width?

Am I missing something here?

Engineer1949

1,423 posts

167 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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derek had similar probs just take the wearing side down slowly on wet and dry 600 grit till you get the right clearance then a quick rub on 2000 to get a good finish.


john

DangerousDerek

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Friday 10th March 2017
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Engineer1949 said:
derek had similar probs just take the wearing side down slowly on wet and dry 600 grit till you get the right clearance then a quick rub on 2000 to get a good finish.


john
Hi John
outside width is fine, its the inside to the block itself that's too tight.

Chuggaboom

1,152 posts

271 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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Unless things have changed over the years, when you have a crank reground, the grinder doesn't touch the thrust faces unless they are badly scored or you ask them to.....its more work that naturally attracts an additional cost.

Engineer1949

1,423 posts

167 months

Saturday 11th March 2017
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ok not seen that before probably got an early 3.5 thrust in there somehow


john

DangerousDerek

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Saturday 11th March 2017
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Chuggaboom said:
Unless things have changed over the years, when you have a crank reground, the grinder doesn't touch the thrust faces unless they are badly scored or you ask them to.....its more work that naturally attracts an additional cost.
I think there is some confusion here.
The bearing outside width is fine and fits perfectly to the crank. The problem is the inside width to the engine block itself.

carsy

3,019 posts

188 months

Saturday 11th March 2017
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I cant see how it can be anything other than the wrong shell.

I wouldnt modify it. Take it back and ask for another.

DangerousDerek

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Saturday 11th March 2017
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After a little careful fettling the crank is in and turning.
Just checked endfloat with a dial gauge and get the minimum 4 thou at a push but it settles back to 3 thou.
Is this too tight or can I put it down to the thick sticky assembly lube I have used liberally?

DangerousDerek

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Saturday 11th March 2017
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TVR Beaver

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203 months

Saturday 11th March 2017
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Sure that will be fine... I had less on mine but it's only soft white metal thats controling this... put the clutch in a few times when built and running and it will soon free up.... smile

DangerousDerek

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Saturday 11th March 2017
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Actually getting somewhere today




Pupp

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295 months

Saturday 11th March 2017
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What's the stud hanging out the centre of the inner rear main cap for? Was looking at mine today after dropping the sump and although there is a threaded hole in that cap (only), there has certainly never been anything like that in it... confused

Is a cross-bolted block

I also think you'll be fine with that clearance

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

283 months

Saturday 11th March 2017
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DangerousDerek said:
Chuggaboom said:
Unless things have changed over the years, when you have a crank reground, the grinder doesn't touch the thrust faces unless they are badly scored or you ask them to.....its more work that naturally attracts an additional cost.
I think there is some confusion here.
The bearing outside width is fine and fits perfectly to the crank. The problem is the inside width to the engine block itself.
Why's that a problem? The measurement you need to be concerned about it the end float of the crank. This is the gap between the crankshaft and bearing thrust face when the crank is pushed fully in one direction. I doubt for one minute the shells will be compressed and damage the block. They don't rotate either. You have .003", that'll be just dandy.

Edited by Boosted LS1 on Saturday 11th March 23:16

Boosted LS1

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283 months

Saturday 11th March 2017
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Pupp said:
What's the stud hanging out the centre of the inner rear main cap for? Was looking at mine today after dropping the sump and although there is a threaded hole in that cap (only), there has certainly never been anything like that in it... confused
To locate the oil pick up pipe?