living with a facelift xfr
living with a facelift xfr
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f430hunter

Original Poster:

340 posts

231 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Took delivery of a new xfr in italian racing red a month ago and wow what a car,immense power,great sound,superb handling for such a large car,well smitten.Traded in a 4 month old new xj 3.0d portfolio but have to say i felt like i was 70 and big the car is flaming huge and mine was a standard wheelbase model.Xfr is not as nicely finished inside but still excellent,if any of you guys are sitting on the fence thinking of buying do it you wont go wrong but make sure you get big discount as these cars drop like stones.Took car to london weekend and returned 27mpg which i thought was very good for a v8.


cheers simon

sjc

16,072 posts

296 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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So come on...., how much is a big discount please??

craigjm

20,913 posts

226 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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drop like stones is nothing compared to what you must have lost on a 4 month old XJ!

I am off Jags at the moment after being monumentally stung with a launch XF in 2008 with a fault list as tall as the Blackpool tower. I am sure they have figured out how to build them now though enjoy.

Triple7

4,015 posts

263 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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At least 11% off a factory order, best bet is a pre-reg, nearly new IMHO.

craigjm

20,913 posts

226 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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List price is 65k without options. Even with no haggling drivethedeal.co.uk will sell you one for 57k so thats 12% off no bother.

kith

624 posts

271 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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craigjm said:
I am off Jags at the moment after being monumentally stung with a launch XF in 2008 with a fault list as tall as the Blackpool tower. I am sure they have figured out how to build them now though enjoy.
I had the same experience with a very early XF. When my memory of its crapness fades I'm sure I'll get another. Used facelift XFR in '13 for £30k? I hope so..

f430hunter

Original Poster:

340 posts

231 months

Wednesday 14th December 2011
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hi guys,dont want to post the deal i got but lets put it this way it made up for the crazy crazy money i lost on the xj,believe me the xj is a great car but no dealer even wanted to take the car back in p/ex unless it was at a 40 percent loss.The xj is very marmite.

cheers simon

craigjm

20,913 posts

226 months

Thursday 15th December 2011
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Why are you surprised at a 40% loss in 4 months on a car of say 70k? just the VAT is 20% of that and you would never get that back. Anyone selling a car so quickly after buying should be prepared to bend over and take it. Cost of making a poor decision im afraid. Out of interest what was the problem with the XJ?

Palmball

1,294 posts

200 months

Thursday 15th December 2011
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I bought an 'old' model XFR (let's call it the 'classic' wink) back in September and have to agree with f430hunter...absolutely awesome machine. My only complaint was that it was bit too quiet but thats the nature of the beast I guess.

I say 'was' because, after 6 weeks I sold it to buy my new XKR. Luckily I bought my XFR at 18-months old for under £40k so the loss wasn't on the same level as selling a new XJ (but still far too much to lose in 5 weeks!). Anyway, my contribution to this thread is to highlight the deal I got on the XKR which will surely show the potential discount available on an expensive Jag....

12% discount was the starting point....the dealer offered this straight and was widely available when shopping around. Not enough.
I then got £2k more than 'book' value for my XFR. Not enough.
The dealer then wet to Jaguar for additional support and got £2k off them. Not enough.
They went back to Jaguar and, as long as I registered the car in November their contribution would increase to £4k. Done!

All in all, this 'discount', if you include my over allowance on the XFR, turned a £91k XKR (it had £10k's worth of options, most importantly the sports exhaust and Dynamic pack options giving mine the same chassis/suspension/sound as the XKR-S without having that cars' droopy front-end styling and worth every single penny) into a £73k XKR and, as this discount is applied to the pre-vat cost it equates to a 20% discount.

Despite this, I probably still lost another £20k driving it off the forecourt frown



Triple7

4,015 posts

263 months

Friday 16th December 2011
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Palm all, get a pic up ASAP! So why didn't you go for an XKR first time around.

Yes, Cars with V8's lose shed loads! But that is one awesome car.

cardigankid

8,866 posts

238 months

Friday 16th December 2011
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Palmball - put up some pics - that XKR sounds magnificent. Did you get the performance seats?

5to1

1,789 posts

259 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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The depreciation figures are helpfull for someone sitting on the buying side (looking for XJ) of the fence. In the current markets its hard to judge whats a realistic offer, if you believed the delaers theyre making a loss giving you 12 months RFL. Thanks

f430hunter

Original Poster:

340 posts

231 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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hi guys the loss on the xj was unacceptable,my range rover sport i lost only 12k in 2 years of motoring and 19k mileage this i was delighted with,my post was to warn potential buyers the xj is not a favoured car by jaguar dealers when it comes to taking them back.So any potentetial buyers make sure your getting a great deal.

cheers simon

Simpo Two

92,002 posts

291 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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Or don't take it back to a Jaguar dealer...

Palmball

1,294 posts

200 months

Sunday 18th December 2011
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Triple7 said:
Palm all, get a pic up ASAP! So why didn't you go for an XKR first time around.
cardigankid said:
Palmball - put up some pics - that XKR sounds magnificent. Did you get the performance seats?
See my new thread with full write up and pictures.

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...


Yes I did get the performance seats and they're are insanely good - they pretty changed my opinion on the entire car and sold it to me (one of the reasons I never previously considered an XKR and the XFR seats are much better than the standard XKR's)!