Looking at a XF
Discussion
Hi folks, I'm trading in my X5 (10 plate) as I'm tired of the poor economy. I'm looking at a new XF and had the 2.2 on test for a day but couldn't get my head round the weak performance in gears 2 to 5. As such I'm now looking at a 3.0D or 3.0DS.
As economy is a major factor can anyone advice on real MPG. Not city driving but more town driving. Cheers chaps
As economy is a major factor can anyone advice on real MPG. Not city driving but more town driving. Cheers chaps
cslwannabe said:
35-37 mpg over 38k miles, however you might want to see my comments on the other XF thread. By far the most unreliable car we've owned - 4 call outs to Jag assist in 2 years (last one being yesterday!).
Might be worth quantifying the callouts. I've had a similar number of issues with Audis too. Flat tyres don't count btw.When the XF first came out I got the 2.7D. Did about 43,000 miles over 18 months, average 37-39 mpg. Then they brought out the 3.0D S, so I chopped for one of those and now, 78,000 miles later, have averaged 32-34 mpg. Pushed it quite hard, without being silly.
Also, it does 160mph with four people and luggage while still getting 20 mpg which is impressive.
Also, it does 160mph with four people and luggage while still getting 20 mpg which is impressive.
johnmiller said:
When the XF first came out I got the 2.7D. Did about 43,000 miles over 18 months, average 37-39 mpg. Then they brought out the 3.0D S, so I chopped for one of those and now, 78,000 miles later, have averaged 32-34 mpg. Pushed it quite hard, without being silly.
Also, it does 160mph with four people and luggage while still getting 20 mpg which is impressive.
A slight exaggeration maybe Also, it does 160mph with four people and luggage while still getting 20 mpg which is impressive.
seeing as I did 80 miles at 140mph on my jack jones with a bag and achieved 18mpg and not wanting to be too pedantic, but that 160 would have been a speedo reading wouldn't it as they are limited to 155 gps? Its a great car, but not quite THAT great 
B3NNL said:
A slight exaggeration maybe seeing as I did 80 miles at 140mph on my jack jones with a bag and achieved 18mpg and not wanting to be too pedantic, but that 160 would have been a speedo reading wouldn't it as they are limited to 155 gps? Its a great car, but not quite THAT great
Possibly I was too busy driving to look at the trip computer too closely, but it was still impressive. seeing as I did 80 miles at 140mph on my jack jones with a bag and achieved 18mpg and not wanting to be too pedantic, but that 160 would have been a speedo reading wouldn't it as they are limited to 155 gps? Its a great car, but not quite THAT great The limiter is all about how you approach it. Technicaly it is 250kph but you can go through it. I have had 162mph on my Road Angel, both with four up with luggage and with five up no luggage.
craigjm said:
I had one for 18 months and it was the most unreliable and fault ridden car I have ever had by a long margin. At the time i was living within a couple of miles of the dealer and it was a good job.
Was it an early car (in terms of manufacturing cycle) and have you had other early cars to compare against?The reason I ask is I've had two cars produced early in the manufacturing cycle and they were the most unreliable vehicles of those owned within my immediate family, let alone myself. One was an E46 coupe on which the rear suspension struts ripped through the mounts and out the bottom of the car. After some haggling BMW agreed to repair out of warranty. Although it did take two months as the dealer then told me they had two more cars having the same thing done. That car also had several other minor niggles (relative to that problem anyway). The second car was a Gallardo on which the pads stuck to the discs and ripped themselves off, three times in as many years. The Gallardo had less niggles, but Lamborghini showed little to no interest in finding the route cause of that problem (the servicing dealer was great, but what can they do if Lambo won't fund their work), despite it almost causing an accident because I hadn't heard them come off on one occaision (radio was on quite loud).
Ofcourse anecdotal evidence isn't always very reliable, but I now try to avoid buying cars within the first year of the production cycle. And if I do I ensure I am meticulous in logging issues early on and keep receipts to show when consumables have been changed (to show how hard the car has been used), just incase the manufacturer tries to wriggle out of repairing problems out of warranty.
Edited by 5to1 on Monday 9th January 13:12
I used to work in the automotive industry so know what you mean about avoiding early production cars - ours is a 59 plate. My 06 skoda octavia was owned for 4 years, 73k miles when we got rid of it and only ever had tyres, servicing and 1 brake light bulb replaced - even brake pads were still original!
XF glovebox opens and closes randomly. Had flat battery 1 week ago so Jag assist removed glovebox bulb but battery appears to have died again over the weekend (although glovebox light goes out after 5 minutes or so anyway). Few months ago battery symbol appeared on dash - battery control module and 3 trips to the dealer later a replacement part was fitted. I'm guessing the 2 flat batteries since Christmas are either due to this or glovebox issue - hopefully find out more tomorrow.
XF glovebox opens and closes randomly. Had flat battery 1 week ago so Jag assist removed glovebox bulb but battery appears to have died again over the weekend (although glovebox light goes out after 5 minutes or so anyway). Few months ago battery symbol appeared on dash - battery control module and 3 trips to the dealer later a replacement part was fitted. I'm guessing the 2 flat batteries since Christmas are either due to this or glovebox issue - hopefully find out more tomorrow.
cslwannabe said:
XF glovebox opens and closes randomly. Had flat battery 1 week ago so Jag assist removed glovebox bulb but battery appears to have died again over the weekend (although glovebox light goes out after 5 minutes or so anyway). Few months ago battery symbol appeared on dash - battery control module and 3 trips to the dealer later a replacement part was fitted. I'm guessing the 2 flat batteries since Christmas are either due to this or glovebox issue - hopefully find out more tomorrow.
Another possibility which X types had in the early years,is it the boot light connection? Shut the boot but the plate doesn't make the proper connection and the boot light remains on, just a thought.Volvo's also suffered the same problem, remind me Ford PAG group(Aston Martin, Jaguar, Volvo) XF designed during Ford ownership, did boot connection for all Ford group members come from the same part suppler?Gassing Station | Jaguar | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff