F - Type, Delivery Dates
Discussion
We are expecting a showroom car and a demo in April and have been asked to submit orders for these as well as the first couple of customer cars. Still haven't confirmed when the customer deliveries will start but May sounds like the earliest to be likely.
Went to the factory for training on it on Monday, and wow what a machine! Lots of interesting little nuggets of info and stats. Lots of competitor analysis and market segment details etc etc.
But the main thing was starting up a 5.0 V8S. Sounds like an XKR-S when you rev it - then you press the "loud button"..... BL00DY HELL! I have sold every supercar going and trust me, it sounds as good as any Lambo or Ferrari.
Cant wait to go on the launch do as there are whispers of a grand prix circuit in Portugal.....
Went to the factory for training on it on Monday, and wow what a machine! Lots of interesting little nuggets of info and stats. Lots of competitor analysis and market segment details etc etc.
But the main thing was starting up a 5.0 V8S. Sounds like an XKR-S when you rev it - then you press the "loud button"..... BL00DY HELL! I have sold every supercar going and trust me, it sounds as good as any Lambo or Ferrari.
Cant wait to go on the launch do as there are whispers of a grand prix circuit in Portugal.....
Thanks - still nervous about ordering the car sight unseen, but have managed to get an invite to the WhatCar customer review at the factory, plus get to meet Ian Callum so should be a good day.
Based on your comments should be getting the call from my dealer to finalise my spec then...
Based on your comments should be getting the call from my dealer to finalise my spec then...
tony wright said:
Good news, hoping to get mine in June so fingers crossed..
I've gone for the V6 S so hope that sounds as good.
The V6 S is probably the one to go for. Make sure you get the loud button, larger brakes and the configurable dynamics. Upgraded seats are a lovely (but expensive) option, and you will need to upgrade the stereo if you intend to use it rather than having it off with the roof down and loud button pressed the whole time.I've gone for the V6 S so hope that sounds as good.
The V6 still sounds fantastic too, look up the F Type at Goodwood FOS on YouTube. That's a V6 being driven in anger and sounds spot on.
"I'm confussed by the loud button. without it it is on loud if in dynamic mode. With it you can also have it on loud when not in dynamic mode, I assume."
Correct.
All S versions have the active sports exhaust but you can add the loud button which then opens the bypass valves all the time.
S models have the high performance brakes as standard although you can upgrade to Super performance brakes.
Would recommend Configurable Dynamic Mode with 'Dynamic-i' information displays, Front and rear park assist, powerfold mirrors, keyless entry and a few more bits as well.
Correct.
All S versions have the active sports exhaust but you can add the loud button which then opens the bypass valves all the time.
S models have the high performance brakes as standard although you can upgrade to Super performance brakes.
Would recommend Configurable Dynamic Mode with 'Dynamic-i' information displays, Front and rear park assist, powerfold mirrors, keyless entry and a few more bits as well.
ferdyg said:
Would recommend Configurable Dynamic Mode with 'Dynamic-i' information displays, Front and rear park assist, powerfold mirrors, keyless entry and a few more bits as well.
Have these on my options list already it was the brake and stereo upgrades I was not sure about. I'm getting the V6 S model so would the brakes really be necessary?tony wright said:
Have these on my options list already it was the brake and stereo upgrades I was not sure about. I'm getting the V6 S model so would the brakes really be necessary?
I think not and they are quite expensive. The V6S brakes are already an upgrade from those on the V6 (380mm v 354mm at the front, same size rear) in any case. Given that it is unlikley that anyone on here has driven an F-type I would say that no-one will be in a position to answer through experience yet, though some dealers are driving them early next week.The specs that are to go in this week are changeable until the end of February so there is still a chance to get feedback before they are locked.
I've had my name down for one of these for many years so I'm in line for my dealer's first customer car. The thing is, I've only ever bought 2 new cars in my life, generally preferring not to trouser loads of money on depreciation. I always figured the F-Type would command very good premiums for the first year so this would offset the first year's ownership. I could then have sold it within the first year, got my money back, and had a year's cheap motoring. Well, that was the theory. Once they announced the prices I've had to think again. To me it seems at least £10k over the top regardless of what Jaguar are trying to convince people about it.
Given the discounts available on XKRs you could get one of these new for less than the V8 F Type (the only model I'd be interested in as a long standing V8 man). I know they want to push the brand upmarket and that has started with the special edition XKs. The new XK in a year or two will be bigger, like the Maserati, so they will push the price up further to compete so they are trying to position the F against that future XK price rather than against the competition. Whichever way I look at it I don't see how they can justify nearly £80k before options for the V8S. It's not mid engined or especially revolutionary. It's a lovely looking car but what do people think about future values after 6 months or 12 months? The dealer says they will get 11 cars this year and have 19 deposits (including mine) which doesn't sound like the stuff of the premiums the SLK got many years ago. In those days I got a £7k premium for one that wasn't even the very first such was the demand.
All thoughts appreciated - I need reassurance before I part with £85k (with basic options)
Given the discounts available on XKRs you could get one of these new for less than the V8 F Type (the only model I'd be interested in as a long standing V8 man). I know they want to push the brand upmarket and that has started with the special edition XKs. The new XK in a year or two will be bigger, like the Maserati, so they will push the price up further to compete so they are trying to position the F against that future XK price rather than against the competition. Whichever way I look at it I don't see how they can justify nearly £80k before options for the V8S. It's not mid engined or especially revolutionary. It's a lovely looking car but what do people think about future values after 6 months or 12 months? The dealer says they will get 11 cars this year and have 19 deposits (including mine) which doesn't sound like the stuff of the premiums the SLK got many years ago. In those days I got a £7k premium for one that wasn't even the very first such was the demand.
All thoughts appreciated - I need reassurance before I part with £85k (with basic options)
puss said:
I've had my name down for one of these for many years so I'm in line for my dealer's first customer car. The thing is, I've only ever bought 2 new cars in my life, generally preferring not to trouser loads of money on depreciation. I always figured the F-Type would command very good premiums for the first year so this would offset the first year's ownership. I could then have sold it within the first year, got my money back, and had a year's cheap motoring. Well, that was the theory. Once they announced the prices I've had to think again. To me it seems at least £10k over the top regardless of what Jaguar are trying to convince people about it.
Given the discounts available on XKRs you could get one of these new for less than the V8 F Type (the only model I'd be interested in as a long standing V8 man). I know they want to push the brand upmarket and that has started with the special edition XKs. The new XK in a year or two will be bigger, like the Maserati, so they will push the price up further to compete so they are trying to position the F against that future XK price rather than against the competition. Whichever way I look at it I don't see how they can justify nearly £80k before options for the V8S. It's not mid engined or especially revolutionary. It's a lovely looking car but what do people think about future values after 6 months or 12 months? The dealer says they will get 11 cars this year and have 19 deposits (including mine) which doesn't sound like the stuff of the premiums the SLK got many years ago. In those days I got a £7k premium for one that wasn't even the very first such was the demand.
All thoughts appreciated - I need reassurance before I part with £85k (with basic options)
Spec up a 991 Carrera S convertible to similar level to the F-Type V8S. Given the discounts available on XKRs you could get one of these new for less than the V8 F Type (the only model I'd be interested in as a long standing V8 man). I know they want to push the brand upmarket and that has started with the special edition XKs. The new XK in a year or two will be bigger, like the Maserati, so they will push the price up further to compete so they are trying to position the F against that future XK price rather than against the competition. Whichever way I look at it I don't see how they can justify nearly £80k before options for the V8S. It's not mid engined or especially revolutionary. It's a lovely looking car but what do people think about future values after 6 months or 12 months? The dealer says they will get 11 cars this year and have 19 deposits (including mine) which doesn't sound like the stuff of the premiums the SLK got many years ago. In those days I got a £7k premium for one that wasn't even the very first such was the demand.
All thoughts appreciated - I need reassurance before I part with £85k (with basic options)
Circa £20k saving for the latest in demand toy rather than yet another re-hash of an existing model..... (With rubbish steering feel;-)
supercharged V8 or n/a 6 cylinder?
aluminium construction?
Realistic depreciation over the next 12-24 months?
Have you seen the option list on the Porsche configurator?!
Then look at the performance figures.....
What else in the same sort of category has the same sort of performance as the V8S F-Type? (No Nissan GTR / track car comparisons as its not that sort of car)
BMW M6? How much?!
Merc SL63 AMG? Again, how much?!
Aston DBS
Aston V12 RS
Various Ferrari's
Gallardo
Etc, etc
Hopefully you are getting the point, compared to its dynamic and performance based competitors it will be considerably cheaper both purchase and depreciation wise, newer, (and dare I say, better?! :-) )
Oh, and you just have to hear it, WOW!
Just go for it. You can't lose much on a years fun. Try doing that in any of the above.
puss said:
I've had my name down for one of these for many years so I'm in line for my dealer's first customer car. The thing is, I've only ever bought 2 new cars in my life, generally preferring not to trouser loads of money on depreciation. I always figured the F-Type would command very good premiums for the first year so this would offset the first year's ownership. I could then have sold it within the first year, got my money back, and had a year's cheap motoring. Well, that was the theory. Once they announced the prices I've had to think again. To me it seems at least £10k over the top regardless of what Jaguar are trying to convince people about it.
Given the discounts available on XKRs you could get one of these new for less than the V8 F Type (the only model I'd be interested in as a long standing V8 man). I know they want to push the brand upmarket and that has started with the special edition XKs. The new XK in a year or two will be bigger, like the Maserati, so they will push the price up further to compete so they are trying to position the F against that future XK price rather than against the competition. Whichever way I look at it I don't see how they can justify nearly £80k before options for the V8S. It's not mid engined or especially revolutionary. It's a lovely looking car but what do people think about future values after 6 months or 12 months? The dealer says they will get 11 cars this year and have 19 deposits (including mine) which doesn't sound like the stuff of the premiums the SLK got many years ago. In those days I got a £7k premium for one that wasn't even the very first such was the demand.
All thoughts appreciated - I need reassurance before I part with £85k (with basic options)
Puss, in a similar frame of mine myself - been waiting 13 years for this... but now unsure... will be my daily driver so want it to be 'right' - having had many Porsches since my first interest in this car it has a lot to live up to in the driving stakes...Given the discounts available on XKRs you could get one of these new for less than the V8 F Type (the only model I'd be interested in as a long standing V8 man). I know they want to push the brand upmarket and that has started with the special edition XKs. The new XK in a year or two will be bigger, like the Maserati, so they will push the price up further to compete so they are trying to position the F against that future XK price rather than against the competition. Whichever way I look at it I don't see how they can justify nearly £80k before options for the V8S. It's not mid engined or especially revolutionary. It's a lovely looking car but what do people think about future values after 6 months or 12 months? The dealer says they will get 11 cars this year and have 19 deposits (including mine) which doesn't sound like the stuff of the premiums the SLK got many years ago. In those days I got a £7k premium for one that wasn't even the very first such was the demand.
All thoughts appreciated - I need reassurance before I part with £85k (with basic options)
puss said:
I've had my name down for one of these for many years so I'm in line for my dealer's first customer car. The thing is, I've only ever bought 2 new cars in my life, generally preferring not to trouser loads of money on depreciation. I always figured the F-Type would command very good premiums for the first year so this would offset the first year's ownership. I could then have sold it within the first year, got my money back, and had a year's cheap motoring. Well, that was the theory. Once they announced the prices I've had to think again. To me it seems at least £10k over the top regardless of what Jaguar are trying to convince people about it.
Given the discounts available on XKRs you could get one of these new for less than the V8 F Type (the only model I'd be interested in as a long standing V8 man). I know they want to push the brand upmarket and that has started with the special edition XKs. The new XK in a year or two will be bigger, like the Maserati, so they will push the price up further to compete so they are trying to position the F against that future XK price rather than against the competition. Whichever way I look at it I don't see how they can justify nearly £80k before options for the V8S. It's not mid engined or especially revolutionary. It's a lovely looking car but what do people think about future values after 6 months or 12 months? The dealer says they will get 11 cars this year and have 19 deposits (including mine) which doesn't sound like the stuff of the premiums the SLK got many years ago. In those days I got a £7k premium for one that wasn't even the very first such was the demand.
All thoughts appreciated - I need reassurance before I part with £85k (with basic options)
Agree. Not sure how it will sell in the UK after the initial demand. Think Jag are concentrating on the USA with this one though. The new Cayman & Boxster are too good for less money here and with year old XKR-S's for less than £60k the F-Type has strong competition.Given the discounts available on XKRs you could get one of these new for less than the V8 F Type (the only model I'd be interested in as a long standing V8 man). I know they want to push the brand upmarket and that has started with the special edition XKs. The new XK in a year or two will be bigger, like the Maserati, so they will push the price up further to compete so they are trying to position the F against that future XK price rather than against the competition. Whichever way I look at it I don't see how they can justify nearly £80k before options for the V8S. It's not mid engined or especially revolutionary. It's a lovely looking car but what do people think about future values after 6 months or 12 months? The dealer says they will get 11 cars this year and have 19 deposits (including mine) which doesn't sound like the stuff of the premiums the SLK got many years ago. In those days I got a £7k premium for one that wasn't even the very first such was the demand.
All thoughts appreciated - I need reassurance before I part with £85k (with basic options)
puss said:
I've had my name down for one of these for many years so I'm in line for my dealer's first customer car. The thing is, I've only ever bought 2 new cars in my life, generally preferring not to trouser loads of money on depreciation. I always figured the F-Type would command very good premiums for the first year so this would offset the first year's ownership. I could then have sold it within the first year, got my money back, and had a year's cheap motoring. Well, that was the theory. Once they announced the prices I've had to think again. To me it seems at least £10k over the top regardless of what Jaguar are trying to convince people about it.
Given the discounts available on XKRs you could get one of these new for less than the V8 F Type (the only model I'd be interested in as a long standing V8 man). I know they want to push the brand upmarket and that has started with the special edition XKs. The new XK in a year or two will be bigger, like the Maserati, so they will push the price up further to compete so they are trying to position the F against that future XK price rather than against the competition. Whichever way I look at it I don't see how they can justify nearly £80k before options for the V8S. It's not mid engined or especially revolutionary. It's a lovely looking car but what do people think about future values after 6 months or 12 months? The dealer says they will get 11 cars this year and have 19 deposits (including mine) which doesn't sound like the stuff of the premiums the SLK got many years ago. In those days I got a £7k premium for one that wasn't even the very first such was the demand.
All thoughts appreciated - I need reassurance before I part with £85k (with basic options)
There was also huge hype around the Aston Martin Vantage when launched, the prices of these dropped like a lead ballon..even with the long waiting lists. I'm sure this is internal hype generated by their own internal marketing machines. I bought my AMV8 for a great price after waiting just over a couple of years after launch. Many people did the same as you trying to offload cars at a great premium, but they all sat around for a long time. I watched them for a while, then could sense the panic of people having expensive metal not selling. Then the prices dropped. Deals could be had.Given the discounts available on XKRs you could get one of these new for less than the V8 F Type (the only model I'd be interested in as a long standing V8 man). I know they want to push the brand upmarket and that has started with the special edition XKs. The new XK in a year or two will be bigger, like the Maserati, so they will push the price up further to compete so they are trying to position the F against that future XK price rather than against the competition. Whichever way I look at it I don't see how they can justify nearly £80k before options for the V8S. It's not mid engined or especially revolutionary. It's a lovely looking car but what do people think about future values after 6 months or 12 months? The dealer says they will get 11 cars this year and have 19 deposits (including mine) which doesn't sound like the stuff of the premiums the SLK got many years ago. In those days I got a £7k premium for one that wasn't even the very first such was the demand.
All thoughts appreciated - I need reassurance before I part with £85k (with basic options)
I'll be doing the same with the F-Type and expect to see the same thing.
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