New XKR speed pack = 174mph
New XKR speed pack = 174mph
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pr100

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287 posts

218 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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£3500 for tweaking the speed limiter:

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...

Also new - "Black" pack for £4000.

Bit steep isn't it for minor engineering adjustments and cosmetic tweaks?

chris_w

2,568 posts

285 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Does seem steep. Has anyone tested the limiter on their XKR yet? Thought there was usually a little leeway built into these things?

Triple7

4,015 posts

263 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Yikes, it is very expensive for a tweak of the electrics......it is the same tweak that was on the XKR-S, no?


FWDRacer

3,565 posts

250 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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The 5.0L S/C doesn't creep up on the limiter, in comparison with the 4.2 XKR-S hehe

What will they do without an electronic strap? nuts



Just look at it... cloud9

pb1695

390 posts

202 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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I have nudged 168 in our XKR, the limiter did not cut in and the car still had a little bit of go! Obviously this could just be an overeading speedo.....

The tweaks to the steering and gearbox sound interesting, maybe I need to pop down to the dealer to investigate.

cardigankid

8,866 posts

238 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Guys, the number of times you or I would be doing 180 as opposed to 160mph must be close to nil. So it's £3500 for what exactly? So you can say your XKR is the dog's bks, until the next one comes along?

Porsche are forever pulling this kind of money for old rope stunt, and it kind of cheeses me off, though some will no doubt pay the money so why not.We all know that people like Paramount and Racing Green, and others, could achieve a great deal more for less money, not to mention fitting an exhaust which you could actually hear.

Towards the end of the run of the last XK8 model, Recaro seats became available. Why the XXXX do we get this kind of limiter nonsense when there isn't even a decent seat in the car? For comparison try the one in the XFR - now available on all the XF-S models. Night and day. I repeat, one fine day if business turns up I might in the market for one of these, but there is zero chance until they fit DECENT SEATS furious


Edited by cardigankid on Wednesday 17th February 18:01

ParanoidAndroid

1,367 posts

309 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Someone confirmed on the main thread that it's £3500 for the Speed pack and another £500 for the black option, ie, £4k total.

Still pricey though and as has been mentioned other than the styling I'm not sure of the point.

Graham
Ps. Had 168mph in the 5.0 XKR at Gaydon although I'm not sure if these had the limiter fitted.

The Pits

4,290 posts

266 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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I share the need for sportier seats, if only as an option. For my money they'd be carbon shelled manually adjustable numbers which would give a serious weight saving on their own. I'm very keen to own an XKR but the depreciation is making me hesitate at the moment. That and the knowledge that the cheaper XFR would be very nearly as quick and good to drive plus has a lot more room in it. I really think Jag need to make the XKR more of a sports car. Those wanting a good looking luxury coupe can quite happily tool around in the regular XK. The R should be more serious, have more power than the XFR, be delimited and be put on a diet.

If jag made an 'RS' version of the XK I wouldn't care about the depreciation. I'd be down the jag dealer's like a shot.

Triple7

4,015 posts

263 months

Saturday 20th February 2010
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There I was drooling over a new Kyante blue XFR y'day, I started to talk about the 'speed' pack on the XKR, however the sales chappie started to talk about the XKR-S & XFR-S, due end of year with 50 extra BHP and a 0-60 a smidgen over 4 secs.......oh dear too much choice Jaguar! wink

steve-p

1,448 posts

308 months

Saturday 20th February 2010
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I'm not convinced the XKR needs more power - it's easy enough to break traction just about anytime as it is. I've had wheelspin flooring it at 60 on a dry motorway changing lanes - albeit in low ambient temperatures where the tyres aren't as grippy as they would be in warmer weather.

What it definitely does need though IMHO is more noise. I may have to look into the options for that this year. Suggestions welcomed smile

Triple7

4,015 posts

263 months

Saturday 20th February 2010
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Jag had that green XKR at Goodwood last year which they said they were looking to make more driver focused. Maybe the up coming XKR-S/XFR-S will be said car?

As for grip, well you just need more rubber.....

cardigankid

8,866 posts

238 months

Sunday 21st February 2010
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The Pits said:
For my money they'd be carbon shelled manually adjustable numbers which would give a serious weight saving on their own.... The R should be more serious.... and be put on a diet.
Precisely.

chris_w

2,568 posts

285 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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steve-p said:
I'm not convinced the XKR needs more power - it's easy enough to break traction just about anytime as it is.
Completely agree, spending their R&D budget squeezing another 50 horses out of it would be a waste imo. If they want to offer something more driver focused it simply needs to lose weight which will improve the driving experience all round, at least in the sense of making it more involving.


The Pits

4,290 posts

266 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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Why not do both and turn the XK into a car that would make a 911 turbo quake in its boots?

Those who don't see the need for more power can just buy the already indecently rapid 5.0 N/A car.

Plus my brother has an uprated Ford GT. I do need the extra power!

Edited by The Pits on Monday 22 February 13:49

Diderot

9,435 posts

218 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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steve-p said:
I'm not convinced the XKR needs more power - it's easy enough to break traction just about anytime as it is. I've had wheelspin flooring it at 60 on a dry motorway changing lanes - albeit in low ambient temperatures where the tyres aren't as grippy as they would be in warmer weather.

What it definitely does need though IMHO is more noise. I may have to look into the options for that this year. Suggestions welcomed smile
As a quick and very cheap (I got it free) fix ask you local Jag dealer to weld the exhaust valves open. Makes a massive difference as a first stage.


steve-p

1,448 posts

308 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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Diderot said:
As a quick and very cheap (I got it free) fix ask you local Jag dealer to weld the exhaust valves open. Makes a massive difference as a first stage.
I've had two good suggestions now, thanks. I'm looking for something that's easily reversible really.

Replacing the centre section of the exhaust with straight through pipes is one idea, removing some of the silencing but leaving the rear intact, looking completely standard, and easily reversible by refitting the standard centre section.

Another idea which is worth pursuing is whether or not it might be feasible to override the valve positions like you can with a simple mod for the Z06 that gives you a remote control on your keyring which allows always quiet, standard automatic or always loud settings. Since it appears they are electrically operated, it might be possible.

Cerbman

565 posts

304 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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Triple7 said:
There I was drooling over a new Kyante blue XFR y'day, I started to talk about the 'speed' pack on the XKR, however the sales chappie started to talk about the XKR-S & XFR-S, due end of year with 50 extra BHP and a 0-60 a smidgen over 4 secs.......oh dear too much choice Jaguar! wink
Seems they're trying to keep pace with our German friends, quite right too.

Edited by Cerbman on Tuesday 23 February 07:19

NormanD

3,208 posts

254 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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steve-p said:
I'm not convinced the XKR needs more power - it's easy enough to break traction just about anytime as it is. I've had wheelspin flooring it at 60 on a dry motorway changing lanes - albeit in low ambient temperatures where the tyres aren't as grippy as they would be in warmer weather.

What it definitely does need though IMHO is more noise. I may have to look into the options for that this year. Suggestions welcomed smile
NO, more the better

Even with the power of mine I often have the Traction Control OFF
Admitidly the LS Diff is a help

Just have to use the grey computer to control the right foot

Cerbman

565 posts

304 months

Sunday 28th February 2010
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Triple7 said:
There I was drooling over a new Kyante blue XFR y'day, I started to talk about the 'speed' pack on the XKR, however the sales chappie started to talk about the XKR-S & XFR-S, due end of year with 50 extra BHP and a 0-60 a smidgen over 4 secs.......oh dear too much choice Jaguar! wink
Are the "S" cars a certainty or just rumours?

Triple7

4,015 posts

263 months

Sunday 28th February 2010
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Cerb, I'm digging around to see if true........