XF or XK
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ronaldo342

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126 posts

212 months

Friday 21st May 2010
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I am looking at buying either an XF or XK in the near future, 2nd hand up to about £30K, we have a 3yr old girl and I trying to decide which ?, head tells me practicality XF diesel, heart tells me XK, does anyone have experience of both re depreciation etc ?

Swoxy

2,842 posts

236 months

Friday 21st May 2010
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It will have to be a XF ...


ronaldo342

Original Poster:

126 posts

212 months

Friday 21st May 2010
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You certainly are correct on the practical side, but i tried my daughter in the xk and she has a lot more room than in her child seat and would probably be fine for the next couple of years although I think I am trying to convince myself, and the wife of course

a8hex

5,832 posts

249 months

Friday 21st May 2010
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Actually you'll go through a spell where there will be more leg room. With very young children their legs aren't long enough for them to reach over the seat squab and so they sit with their legs sticking out more. Once their legs get a little longer they'll drop down into the footwell where they are supposed to be.

Triple7

4,015 posts

263 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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Hmmmm. £30k will get you some differing options. As for practicality, the XF is the realistic option when compared with the XK, but which XK? Steel or aluminium? The steel has more room than the Ali, in the boot and rear. With the Ali XK a child in the back will significantly compromise the front seat leg room. If you will travel as 2 adults in the front, I don't think you will want to have a child in the rear. With the steel XK you can, just. With regard to depreciation, a £30k XK will have halved in value over 3 years, so you'll be looking at a 1st edition XK, or a run out steel XKR. A £30k XF will either be a prem lux 2.7D 2yr old XF or a lux 3.0. The XK will have more kit than a standard 3.0 XF but similar level to a 3yr old 4.2 SV8 (petrol). The XK is a far more fun car to own/drive, the XF I don't think will keep you wanting it, no matter how good it is. I would go for the petrol supercharged SV8 XF. The were£60k plus new, have top level spec/options and will give you that Jaguar vibe. Either that or buy a gorgeous Ali XK and send your daughter off in a taxi. wink

Triple7

4,015 posts

263 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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Hmmmm. £30k will get you some differing options. As for practicality, the XF is the realistic option when compared with the XK, but which XK? Steel or aluminium? The steel has more room than the Ali, in the boot and rear. With the Ali XK a child in the back will significantly compromise the front seat leg room. If you will travel as 2 adults in the front, I don't think you will want to have a child in the rear. With the steel XK you can, just. With regard to depreciation, a £30k XK will have halved in value over 3 years, so you'll be looking at a 1st edition XK, or a run out steel XKR. A £30k XF will either be a prem lux 2.7D 2yr old XF or a lux 3.0. The XK will have more kit than a standard 3.0 XF but similar level to a 3yr old 4.2 SV8 (petrol). The XK is a far more fun car to own/drive, the XF I don't think will keep you wanting it, no matter how good it is. I would go for the petrol supercharged SV8 XF. The were£60k plus new, have top level spec/options and will give you that Jaguar vibe. Either that or buy a gorgeous Ali XK and send your daughter off in a taxi. wink

Triple7

4,015 posts

263 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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Hmmmm. £30k will get you some differing options. As for practicality, the XF is the realistic option when compared with the XK, but which XK? Steel or aluminium? The steel has more room than the Ali, in the boot and rear. With the Ali XK a child in the back will significantly compromise the front seat leg room. If you will travel as 2 adults in the front, I don't think you will want to have a child in the rear. With the steel XK you can, just. With regard to depreciation, a £30k XK will have halved in value over 3 years, so you'll be looking at a 1st edition XK, or a run out steel XKR. A £30k XF will either be a prem lux 2.7D 2yr old XF or a lux 3.0. The XK will have more kit than a standard 3.0 XF but similar level to a 3yr old 4.2 SV8 (petrol). The XK is a far more fun car to own/drive, the XF I don't think will keep you wanting it, no matter how good it is. I would go for the petrol supercharged SV8 XF. The were£60k plus new, have top level spec/options and will give you that Jaguar vibe. Either that or buy a gorgeous Ali XK and send your daughter off in a taxi. wink

williamp

20,219 posts

299 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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I guess thats why you're called "triple" eh??

Triple7

4,015 posts

263 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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ha ha. Server time out, so it said.

ronaldo342

Original Poster:

126 posts

212 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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You obviously know your jags triple7 excellent suggestion (all three of them) going on hol and when get back back I will have a look at an SV8. thanks

Triple7

4,015 posts

263 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Yesssir, love 'em! If you need help sourcing a Jag, let me know. Have a fab hols.

Lostprophet

2,549 posts

195 months

Thursday 10th June 2010
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I'm sure you can get a child into the back of the XK.

Go for the XK!

Check out readers reviews on both the XK and XK on Whatcar. I'd stay clear of the XF... reliability seem like a bit of an issue!

Lostprophet

2,549 posts

195 months

Thursday 10th June 2010
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Hmmm all Jags lose bucket loads of cash. I reckon 4k pa on a 30k XK

S1M VP

949 posts

260 months

Thursday 10th June 2010
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Do you not need a child seat in the back or are these exempt as its so small in there anyway??

pr100

287 posts

218 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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Last night I had two adult passengers for a short run in my 07 XKR convertible. With the roof up, the chap in the back seat had to keep his head bent forward or hit the roof lining. To allow just enough room for his legs, the front seat passenger had to pull the seat so far forward that his knees were pressed hard against the glove box. In other words, this is not something you would want to do very often or for very long.

A 3-yr old should be comfortable enough in the back seat though - but as soon as little legs start to outgrow the seat depth, any front seat passenger is going to have to give up some leg room.

Not much fun buckling a child in though. There isn't a lot of travel on the seat runners so you can't create enough of a void to do the job comfortably. Not sure if there's a manual override to the electronic seat position controls - if not, it's fiddly and slow so not ideal if regularly belting a child in the back.

Lostprophet

2,549 posts

195 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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pr100 said:
Last night I had two adult passengers for a short run in my 07 XKR convertible. With the roof up, the chap in the back seat had to keep his head bent forward or hit the roof lining. To allow just enough room for his legs, the front seat passenger had to pull the seat so far forward that his knees were pressed hard against the glove box. In other words, this is not something you would want to do very often or for very long.

A 3-yr old should be comfortable enough in the back seat though - but as soon as little legs start to outgrow the seat depth, any front seat passenger is going to have to give up some leg room.

Not much fun buckling a child in though. There isn't a lot of travel on the seat runners so you can't create enough of a void to do the job comfortably. Not sure if there's a manual override to the electronic seat position controls - if not, it's fiddly and slow so not ideal if regularly belting a child in the back.
Suitable for a 1-3 year old child maybe?

What is the depreciation like on a 3 year old XK, XKR? £5k pa? more maybe?

Diderot

9,432 posts

218 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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pr100 said:
Last night I had two adult passengers for a short run in my 07 XKR convertible. With the roof up, the chap in the back seat had to keep his head bent forward or hit the roof lining. To allow just enough room for his legs, the front seat passenger had to pull the seat so far forward that his knees were pressed hard against the glove box. In other words, this is not something you would want to do very often or for very long.

A 3-yr old should be comfortable enough in the back seat though - but as soon as little legs start to outgrow the seat depth, any front seat passenger is going to have to give up some leg room.

Not much fun buckling a child in though. There isn't a lot of travel on the seat runners so you can't create enough of a void to do the job comfortably. Not sure if there's a manual override to the electronic seat position controls - if not, it's fiddly and slow so not ideal if regularly belting a child in the back.
Likewise, I've driven a few adults now in the back of my 07 XKR coupe. Not the most comfortable experience. However, 7 year old nephew loved it and we only had to move the passenger seat forward a few inches.

Edited by Diderot on Friday 11th June 12:50

Lostprophet

2,549 posts

195 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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Diderot said:
pr100 said:
Last night I had two adult passengers for a short run in my 07 XKR convertible. With the roof up, the chap in the back seat had to keep his head bent forward or hit the roof lining. To allow just enough room for his legs, the front seat passenger had to pull the seat so far forward that his knees were pressed hard against the glove box. In other words, this is not something you would want to do very often or for very long.

A 3-yr old should be comfortable enough in the back seat though - but as soon as little legs start to outgrow the seat depth, any front seat passenger is going to have to give up some leg room.

Not much fun buckling a child in though. There isn't a lot of travel on the seat runners so you can't create enough of a void to do the job comfortably. Not sure if there's a manual override to the electronic seat position controls - if not, it's fiddly and slow so not ideal if regularly belting a child in the back.
Likewise, I've driven a few adults now in the back of my 07 XKR coupe. Not the most comfortable experience. However, 7 year old nephew loved it and we only had to move the passenger seat forward a few inches.

Edited by Diderot on Friday 11th June 12:50
Whats the 07 XKR like to own? Any issues with the car?

How long have you owned it?

Lostprophet

2,549 posts

195 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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Diderot said:
pr100 said:
Last night I had two adult passengers for a short run in my 07 XKR convertible. With the roof up, the chap in the back seat had to keep his head bent forward or hit the roof lining. To allow just enough room for his legs, the front seat passenger had to pull the seat so far forward that his knees were pressed hard against the glove box. In other words, this is not something you would want to do very often or for very long.

A 3-yr old should be comfortable enough in the back seat though - but as soon as little legs start to outgrow the seat depth, any front seat passenger is going to have to give up some leg room.

Not much fun buckling a child in though. There isn't a lot of travel on the seat runners so you can't create enough of a void to do the job comfortably. Not sure if there's a manual override to the electronic seat position controls - if not, it's fiddly and slow so not ideal if regularly belting a child in the back.
Likewise, I've driven a few adults now in the back of my 07 XKR coupe. Not the most comfortable experience. However, 7 year old nephew loved it and we only had to move the passenger seat forward a few inches.

Edited by Diderot on Friday 11th June 12:50
Whats the 07 XKR like to own? Any issues with the car?

How long have you owned it?

zx10ben

1,074 posts

194 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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Quite an echo on this thread eh!

I'm in a very similar predicament, except I have an XFS and we also have a family waggon in the form of an S Max, so the better half has given me the go ahead to get a fun weekender. Looking at a budget of about £35k I'm sorely tempted by the XKR ali, but am a tad concerned by the depreciation factor. If it's a car to keep for the duration the depreciation shouldn't matter but you never know what's around the corner!
Love the XK but also been looking at the TVR porn that's in the same budget.